Paul_Heys Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Hi all I hope you can help? I have a Ernie Ball MusicMan Sting Ray (Circa 1982 - I think) which I am looking to sell. I was told it was worth around £1200 but I thought I would double check before I waste anybodies time. It has one previous owner besides myself and has really been looked after. Never let me down once! The only reason I am selling is that with job and family commitments I don't get chance to play it anymore and I would rather it go to a good home and get some use. I'm not in a mad rush to sell it, so if anybody out there can help me put a reasonable price to it I can get it out there. If you need anymore info, please let me know and any info you can send my way the better. Thank you in advance, Paul [attachment=102291:EB-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-01.JPG] [attachment=102292:EB-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-03.JPG] [attachment=102293:EB-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-04.JPG] [attachment=102294:EB-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-07.JPG] [attachment=102295:EB-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-09.JPG] [attachment=102296:EB-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-10.JPG] Edited March 12, 2012 by Paul_Heys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 It's a bit later than that, around 1987 to 1990. £1,200 is a bit on the spendy side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Heys Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the quick response! What price would you put on it? Just want to be as near as possible when I put it up for sale. Edited March 12, 2012 by Paul_Heys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I shall give you 10 English pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Paul_Heys' timestamp='1331555762' post='1574604'] Thanks for the quick response! What price would you put on it? Just want to be as near as possible when I put it up for sale. [/quote] It's difficult to know... the early 4 bolt EB basses are some of the best Stingrays out there, certainly better than some of the dodgy pre-EB, early 80s instruments with wonky necks. But for reasons unrelated to quality, they're not as collectable as pre-EB models. How much you get for it really depends who's buying on the day. If it's viewed as a bog-standard EB Stingray with mutes, around £800. Possibly £1000 if someone is really after a four bolt (they're difficult to come by). First thing I would do is to take the saddles off that bridge and put them back on the right way round (strings should thread through the bridge on the left of the saddle bolts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 It's a really nice looking bass, by the way... what's the figuring like on the neck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Heys Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Thanks dlloyd I really appreciate this - and I will get on the Saddles issue! ; ) I love this Bass loads!!! It's a real pleasure to play, it's only when you get hold of another bass you realise how easy it is to get around the neck of a Musicman Sting Ray. Not sure if this is just mine or MM's in general? I've had this for over 10 years and the guy I bought it off still can't believe he sold it to me!!! If I can get £850-£900 for it I would be happy but pretty upset to see it go. Thanks again for the help. Edited March 12, 2012 by Paul_Heys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1331555597' post='1574596'] It's a bit later than that, around 1987 to 1990. £1,200 is a bit on the spendy side. [/quote] Yep. Looks to be a summer '88 with that serial. "Doh" to the saddles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Heys Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thank you for conferming the year and thanks for your all the help, really appreciate it!!! Feel a right ____ about the saddles! : ) I'll sort them and get it up for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'm fortunate enough to also have an '88 four bolter, and would take it all day long over a 3 bolt pre, or a modern Classic. I was jammy enough to get it cheap as the result of a poorly photod eBay listing, however even at £800-1000 these are still a bargain. Some gratuitous porn below... [IMG]http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac162/MattM1314/Rayfront.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac162/MattM1314/Rayhiresheadfront.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac162/MattM1314/RayHiResneckback.jpg[/IMG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Yep... EBMMs of this age tend to have really nice figuring to the necks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Heys Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Arrh man!!!! Beautiful!!!! This posting is having the opposite effect. The more I look at it the more I want to keep it. ; ) Always wanted it in Black too. If I do end up selling mine - I would want to replace it one day. Just need a few more extra weeks in the month to find the time to play. Thanks for all your help (and the sexy photos) ; ) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkpegasus4001 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1331556487' post='1574624'] "certainly better than some of the dodgy pre-EB, early 80s instruments with wonky necks". [/quote] Is that right? I had never heard that said about the Stingray before. and I had been toying with the idea of buying an early MM but that's quite worrying. MattM's 88 looks the biz! Edited March 13, 2012 by clarkpegasus4001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) [quote name='clarkpegasus4001' timestamp='1331619833' post='1575847'] Is that right? I had never heard that said about the Stingray before. and I had been toying with the idea of buying an early MM but that's quite worrying. MattM's 88 looks the biz! [/quote] [url="http://forums.ernieball.com/music-man-basses/7512-some-music-man-history-george-fullerton.html#post74974"]http://forums.ernieb....html#post74974[/url] [quote]Here is the problem...most of these guys are dead so trying to correct the record becomes more and more difficult. Tommy, Leo, Forrest and quite a few more are no longer with us. I can tell you that Leo was very disappointed that his stingray and sabre guitars didn't sell and that was the basis for G&L. G&L (GEORGE AND LEO) was started at CLF behind Music Man's back and coincidence or other CLF made 2,500 Music man bass necks with straight truss rods. Tommy was forced to go to a young upstart Grover Jackson to make the basses. Grover was the one who introduced the trans finishes. I often asked Tommy why he didn't sue over the suspect necks and he replied "My daddy didn't raise me like that"[/quote] A little more about it here: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/what-diiferent-special-about-pre-ebmm-stingrays-602262/index3.html#post8291397 and here (interesting as it's from a pro-G&L point of view): http://guitarsbyleo.com/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=5371 Edited March 13, 2012 by dlloyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Also, the beautifully figured neck woods they were using around the time... because of their inherent nature didn't always settle into nice straight pieces of wood like a simple grained neck would. Quite ironically these are generally the most sought after necks.... aesthetically that is. It's fair to say though that the ones that have survived this long without going skew-whiff are the good 'uns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 [quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1331639534' post='1576250'] Also, the beautifully figured neck woods they were using around the time... because of their inherent nature didn't always settle into nice straight pieces of wood like a simple grained neck would. Quite ironically these are generally the most sought after necks.... aesthetically that is. It's fair to say though that the ones that have survived this long without going skew-whiff are the good 'uns. [/quote] It's interesting that the non-functioning truss rod issues immediately preceded the release of the Musicman Cutlass in 1983... I imagine the decision to source necks from Modulus had something to do with having a stockpile of basses with unadjustable necks. It could be the case that relatively few of the 2,500 wonky necks actually made it out of the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkpegasus4001 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1331628058' post='1575936'] [url="http://forums.ernieball.com/music-man-basses/7512-some-music-man-history-george-fullerton.html#post74974"]http://forums.ernieb....html#post74974[/url] A little more about it here: [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/what-diiferent-special-about-pre-ebmm-stingrays-602262/index3.html#post8291397"]http://www.talkbass....tml#post8291397[/url] and here (interesting as it's from a pro-G&L point of view): [url="http://guitarsbyleo.com/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=5371"]http://guitarsbyleo....hp?f=101&t=5371[/url] [/quote] Mmmmmmm' thanks that's interesting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingsta Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 [quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1331639534' post='1576250'] Also, the beautifully figured neck woods they were using around the time... because of their inherent nature didn't always settle into nice straight pieces of wood like a simple grained neck would. Quite ironically these are generally the most sought after necks.... aesthetically that is. It's fair to say though that the ones that have survived this long without going skew-whiff are the good 'uns. [/quote] I spoke to a luthier the other day and he was saying the same thing. The figured necks tend to be less stiff than unfigured and can be more sensitive to truss rod adjustments and changes in temp etc. My 93 'ray has a light flame pattern but has been pretty stable over the years. I've noticed that the neck has gone from very pale blonde with almost a hint of green to a rich yellow/brown over time - its a shame that the same can't be said of my hair color, which has gone the other way (dark -> grey)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 My 2011 Stingray H 3 EQ has a very rare amount of flame figuring for a new bass...out of pure luck to be honest. I've gigged it about 15 times, probably practiced with it double that, and I've only adjusted the neck with the magic truss wheel once...it did need a fair adjustment but once I changed the strings it needed it anyway. Totally love it. I am never making the mistake of selling my EBMMs again. I just want more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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