apa Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Hes been mentioned before but seriously!!! [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Guvnor-Bass-Guitar-new-guitar-full-pro-set-up-/190650723221?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2c63ab2b95"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Guvnor-Bass-Guitar-new-guitar-full-pro-set-up-/190650723221?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2c63ab2b95[/url] His expression says it all A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Meh, it's not a bad deal really if it's been setup really well. It is a pain in the arse buying a new instrument, and instead of getting it out of the box and having a wonderful time playing it, you have to mess around setting it up and ironing out the kinks. And if hes enjoying doing it and making a few quid more power to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaypup Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 He's pretty honest about it, and if people want to pay a premium for a well set-up bass then that's their choice innit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apa Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 But you'd be better off taking it to a professional to have it set up. He goes on about 'pro setup' and gigging. He isnt a pro. He honestly says hes a 'guitar fixer/converter'. Whats that supposed to mean? Sure its out the box but youve also instantly lost your guarantee and is second hand by any other name. In my book when you go on like he does about what hes done to it its more a case of convincing yourself you know what you are doing. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Fair play, he's transparent on what he's offering & what the buyer is paying for. IMHO, Good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 That's more than double what some luthiers charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The old buy something, apply effort, sell for more than bought for thing, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apa Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 £70 - 20%VAT + £10pp = £66 £154 - £66 = £88 for a set up by some bloke and a guarantee by Ebay!!! A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Don't forget he pays ebay fees and paypal fees on that and the shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) Second-hand car and antiques businesses wouldn't be seen dead with such small mark ups, and probably wouldn't put as much effort in in the first place! Edited March 18, 2012 by chris_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='nick' timestamp='1332096035' post='1583191'] Fair play, he's transparent on what he's offering & what the buyer is paying for. IMHO, Good luck to him. [/quote] plus the one. his feedback's good, so more power to his elbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I shoul offer a service where people can ebay instruments shipped straight to me for a basic setup and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apa Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 Local luther to me charges £54 for a full set up that includes alot more than this guy offers. No ebay fees and no PP. Ive never used him. Just an instant example. [url="http://kimwebberguitars.co.uk/repair/index.html"]http://kimwebberguitars.co.uk/repair/index.html[/url] (Yes it is the guy who did the diamond LP). A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='apa' timestamp='1332097726' post='1583256'] Local luther to me charges £54 for a full set up that includes alot more than this guy offers. No ebay fees and no PP. Ive never used him. Just an instant example. [/quote] well, use your local luthier and don't buy anything from this bloke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle psychosis Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1332097868' post='1583260'] well, use your local luthier and don't buy anything from this bloke... [/quote] Exactly. I had a summer job working in a shop and people would come in, buy a pint of milk, and then say "how much? its 20p cheaper in the shop across the street..." ---but buy it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 This guys been knocking out basses for a while now. I think he's cool. He's got great feedback. He is a cheeky bugger but he's honest. More power to him I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL POSTERS Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 He's found a market and he's exploiting it...Good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 After that 7 string situation I think the man is a smug knob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1332096287' post='1583202'] without looking. Is this the guy who converted the 7 string squire to 6 string. Raised the bridge to get a break angle and then used a chock from a 747 as a neck shim? [/quote] I think I missed this. Was it discussed on here? Got any links? [quote name='BRANCINI' timestamp='1332113203' post='1583604'] He's found a market and he's exploiting it...Good luck to him. [/quote] So has that guy with a palm sander and an oily rag who regularly turns out "mojo" basses.... yet BC is less forgiving about his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1946 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 How do you know he paid 70quid? Good luck to him, as i'm retired maybe i should do that. People on here have responded positively to my work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apa Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 [quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1332097868' post='1583260'] well, use your local luthier and don't buy anything from this bloke... [/quote] Thats exactly my point. [quote name='tom1946' timestamp='1332133998' post='1583702'] How do you know he paid 70quid? Good luck to him, as i'm retired maybe i should do that. People on here have responded positively to my work.... [/quote] Because looking at it its a Guvnor GB100 which you can buy £70.00 brand new with a 5 year guarantee. If he paid less then he probably got it second hand which means you'd be buying a 3rd hand cheapo bass that some bloke has had a fiddle about with for £154 delivered! A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1332151896' post='1583840'] It'll not be too far away it was posted on here it might have been in a thread with one of his previous set up basses. I had a look for the auction but it seems to have gone now. IIRC it was Wayne that made him an offer for it he didn't approve. Edit found the thread on here [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/129661-beginners-dream/page__hl__squier%207%20string"]http://basschat.co.u...er%207%20string[/url] But the forum move has screwed up all the links. [/quote] Ah merci beaucoup. I think I remember it now. Same faces for and against I see. Loved the line about him half inching it off the back seat of someone's car. I obviously do set-ups as well and I (with my bass player first and foremost attitude) don't charge anything like what this guy is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1332154592' post='1583890'] .... I'd be interested to see how he converted the 7 string TOM to a 6? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SG-built-big-hands-Guild-7-string-size-6-string-/190568230765"]http://www.ebay.co.u...g-/190568230765[/url] Does a standard TOM fit the same stud spacing ?? [/quote] Holy sheyit. I was starting to feel a bit sorry for the bashing... but that is just f*cked up. He's obviously found a source of damaged guitars which he is breathing 5 minutes of life back into and flogging off in these auctions peppered with as many big names as he can get away with ... and this is where he's ripping folk off. Yes he's disclosing info but at the same time he makes it all seem like it's either been fixed or it doesn't matter. There's nothing ethically wrong with doing up guitars and selling them on... if you are doing it right. This is just embarrassing. He "filled" the nut and re cut it? If he's that good he should be able to make a new one... and with less time and effort than it took to bodge this disaster. And wtf is with the bridge and crossover stringing? I've read it a few times and still don't get it - side-force? routed the saddles?? [size=4]increased down force???[/size] [quote][size=4]These DeArmond humbuckers have got lots of wires coming to them, which was a bit confusing; but I extracted half the neck humbucker coils, and so with just one coil driven hard it now has that sharp cutting edge of a strat for rock; and played less hard has greater tonal depth for clear chords.[/size][/quote] Don't bother with one of those tricky coil tap switches, simply rip out all those confusing wires and "extract" half the coil. [quote][size=4][size=4][size=2][size=4][size=4]I wanted to change the look of the head a bit so instead of converting it to a simple three tuners each side, I went for that Schecter look on their seven-strings, and put the higher strings on one side, and the two lowest bass strings on the other side of the head alone...[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/quote] That was nice of him. Nothing to do with that the missing tuner probably took a knock en route to the supplier and seeing as none of the others on the 4 side fit flipped over on to the "2" side he just removed it leaving a hole....just like Schecter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apa Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 perhaps a reread of the sale Im refering to will show it in a different light now. Nothing wrong in standing up for the little guy but only if they are the 'good guys'. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1332169664' post='1584193'] what is Hornbeam? [/quote] A tree. The wood is also known as ironwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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