What Is Hip

[Pete Academy]

I'm not trying to force people to like Marcus, but I think this version of 'What Is Hip' by Tower Of Power is just incredible.

Technique, sound, feel, timing, dynamics...it's all here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qtuoZXgkyA

[chris_b]

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332095225' post='1583172']
....Technique, sound, feel, timing, dynamics...it's all here....
[/quote]

It is. Why don't I like it?

MM is a fantastic finger style player. When he switches to FS at 4.10 the whole number takes off for me (until 4.26)!

[waynepunkdude]

Bit between the thigh and stomach.

[kevin_lindsay]

I endured around 2 minutes of it - couldn't listen to any more. Bloody awful!

[Pete Academy]

[quote name='kevin_lindsay' timestamp='1332096495' post='1583211']
I endured around 2 minutes of it - couldn't listen to any more. Bloody awful!
[/quote]

Why?

[Pete Academy]

This is why bass playing is so subjective. To me, this is a player at the top of his game. To other people this is a bad noise.

[BassMan94]

The double thumbing is mental, must've sat there just doing that for a whole day

[M-N-Y]

Much as I love Marcus, I don't think this particular version benefits from the mental speed double thumbing. All sounds just a bit frenetic on this clip.

[Doddy]

Great.
The only way that I think it could be better is if Poogie was on drums.

[pietruszka]

I have to admit, I'm not a fan of that style of playing. To me it's what happens when a guitarist has a shot of your bass! Miller is a great player and listening to that it's hard to believe its the same bassist on 'Just the two of us'.

Again great player but I don't subscribe the fill everything out with loads of thumps.




Dan

[ahpook]

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332097196' post='1583241']
This is why bass playing is so subjective. To me, this is a player at the top of his game. To other people this is a bad noise.
[/quote]

to me it's not bad noise...it's a very good bass player making music i don't care for.

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332095225' post='1583172']
Technique, sound, feel, timing, dynamics...it's all here.
[/quote]
Maybe, but for me it has no soul.

[kevin_lindsay]

The original version GROOVES!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnUFVyt1dHQ&sns=em

To me, the Marcus version is indulgent, and is ruined by the jazz dissonance.

[waynepunkdude]

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1332098227' post='1583269']
Great.
The only way that I think it could be better is if Poogie was on drums.
[/quote]

That is the worst name I have ever heard and I'm called Wayne.

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='kevin_lindsay' timestamp='1332102042' post='1583368']
The original version GROOVES!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnUFVyt1dHQ&sns=em[/media]

To me, the Marcus version is indulgent, and is ruined by the jazz dissonance.
[/quote]
Much better.

[Roland Rock]

I don't think that that particular bassline lends itself very well to being given the slap treatment. It seems to have replaced a lot of the bubbling bass with a loy of trebly clickety click. Saying that, it seems to work well when he plays a different part around 2:18.

[bengreen49]

nah, sorry.

[yorks5stringer]

[sub][size=3][size=4]Having watched the original version live a week last Friday at Ronnie Scotts ( have I mentioned that yet?) and then a recording from the 40th Anniversary TOP Concert CD yesterday I have to concur with those who prefer the original.[/size][/size][/sub]
[sub][size=3][size=4]Interestingly Emillio Castillo was saying when they record Rocco Prestia his basslines are all over the place in a solo mix yet the drummer David Garibaldi's stuff is always spot on. I watched a TOP tribute a few years ago and the only way the guy could replicate FRP's lines was by using all 4 fingers of his right hand. Yet watching FRP last Friday I was surprised to see most of his right hand work is just the first two fingers with the occasional use of this third finger.[/size][/size][/sub]

[sub][size=3][size=4]BTW I do like MM too.[/size][/size][/sub]

[risingson]

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1332101567' post='1583360']
Maybe, but for me it has no soul.
[/quote]

+1. And Marcus has got soul, it's evident in a lot of his recordings. But poor imitations of well established songs and bass lines and he's not doing himself any favours. Dull dull dull, totally self-serving trash.

[Pete Academy]

I appreciate the comments but I totally disagree. I think this is a great take on a classic track.

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332111195' post='1583556']
I appreciate the comments but I totally disagree. I think this is a great take on a classic track.
[/quote]
So, do you think it has soul?

[Doddy]

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1332111589' post='1583562']

So, do you think it has soul?
[/quote]
Yes.

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1332111701' post='1583568']
Yes.
[/quote]
Strange.

[Doddy]

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1332112052' post='1583574']

Strange.
[/quote]
Why,exactly,is that strange?

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1332112123' post='1583575']
Why,exactly,is that strange?
[/quote]
Because to my ear, it is very soul-less.