Pete Academy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I'm not trying to force people to like Marcus, but I think this version of 'What Is Hip' by Tower Of Power is just incredible. Technique, sound, feel, timing, dynamics...it's all here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qtuoZXgkyA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332095225' post='1583172'] ....Technique, sound, feel, timing, dynamics...it's all here.... [/quote] It is. Why don't I like it? MM is a fantastic finger style player. When he switches to FS at 4.10 the whole number takes off for me (until 4.26)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Bit between the thigh and stomach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_lindsay Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I endured around 2 minutes of it - couldn't listen to any more. Bloody awful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='kevin_lindsay' timestamp='1332096495' post='1583211'] I endured around 2 minutes of it - couldn't listen to any more. Bloody awful! [/quote] Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 This is why bass playing is so subjective. To me, this is a player at the top of his game. To other people this is a bad noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassMan94 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The double thumbing is mental, must've sat there just doing that for a whole day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-N-Y Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Much as I love Marcus, I don't think this particular version benefits from the mental speed double thumbing. All sounds just a bit frenetic on this clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Great. The only way that I think it could be better is if Poogie was on drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietruszka Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I have to admit, I'm not a fan of that style of playing. To me it's what happens when a guitarist has a shot of your bass! Miller is a great player and listening to that it's hard to believe its the same bassist on 'Just the two of us'. Again great player but I don't subscribe the fill everything out with loads of thumps. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332097196' post='1583241'] This is why bass playing is so subjective. To me, this is a player at the top of his game. To other people this is a bad noise. [/quote] to me it's not bad noise...it's a very good bass player making music i don't care for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332095225' post='1583172'] Technique, sound, feel, timing, dynamics...it's all here. [/quote] Maybe, but for me it has no soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_lindsay Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The original version GROOVES! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnUFVyt1dHQ&sns=em To me, the Marcus version is indulgent, and is ruined by the jazz dissonance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1332098227' post='1583269'] Great. The only way that I think it could be better is if Poogie was on drums. [/quote] That is the worst name I have ever heard and I'm called Wayne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='kevin_lindsay' timestamp='1332102042' post='1583368'] The original version GROOVES! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnUFVyt1dHQ&sns=em[/media] To me, the Marcus version is indulgent, and is ruined by the jazz dissonance. [/quote] Much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I don't think that that particular bassline lends itself very well to being given the slap treatment. It seems to have replaced a lot of the bubbling bass with a loy of trebly clickety click. Saying that, it seems to work well when he plays a different part around 2:18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengreen49 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 nah, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [sub][size=3][size=4]Having watched the original version live a week last Friday at Ronnie Scotts ( have I mentioned that yet?) and then a recording from the 40th Anniversary TOP Concert CD yesterday I have to concur with those who prefer the original.[/size][/size][/sub] [sub][size=3][size=4]Interestingly Emillio Castillo was saying when they record Rocco Prestia his basslines are all over the place in a solo mix yet the drummer David Garibaldi's stuff is always spot on. I watched a TOP tribute a few years ago and the only way the guy could replicate FRP's lines was by using all 4 fingers of his right hand. Yet watching FRP last Friday I was surprised to see most of his right hand work is just the first two fingers with the occasional use of this third finger.[/size][/size][/sub] [sub][size=3][size=4]BTW I do like MM too.[/size][/size][/sub] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1332101567' post='1583360'] Maybe, but for me it has no soul. [/quote] +1. And Marcus has got soul, it's evident in a lot of his recordings. But poor imitations of well established songs and bass lines and he's not doing himself any favours. Dull dull dull, totally self-serving trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 I appreciate the comments but I totally disagree. I think this is a great take on a classic track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332111195' post='1583556'] I appreciate the comments but I totally disagree. I think this is a great take on a classic track. [/quote] So, do you think it has soul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1332111589' post='1583562'] So, do you think it has soul? [/quote] Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1332111701' post='1583568'] Yes. [/quote] Strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1332112052' post='1583574'] Strange. [/quote] Why,exactly,is that strange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1332112123' post='1583575'] Why,exactly,is that strange? [/quote] Because to my ear, it is very soul-less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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