What Is Hip

[waynepunkdude]

Had a good listen, the drums and sax were great but the bass and keys sounded awful.

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1332112937' post='1583598']
Had a good listen, the drums and sax were great but the bass and keys sounded awful.
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I thought the sax player looked as though he was hoping it would be finished sooner rather than later.

[Doddy]

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1332112591' post='1583587']

Because to my ear, it is very soul-less.
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Whereas to me it sounds great and the band are feeling it

[waynepunkdude]

Yeah he didn't look happy but he was solid.

[uncle psychosis]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1332112937' post='1583598']
Had a good listen, the drums and sax were great but the bass and keys sounded awful.
[/quote]

My thoughts too. That style of bass playing does nothing for me, sadly.

[EssentialTension]

I just listened to it again. The first 12 seconds of bass is ok, then soul-less clanking, and the keyboards are actually worse than the bass.

[waynepunkdude]

The keyboards are in 70's porn range.

[waynepunkdude]

You can almost smell the massive bush and massive sunglasses.

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1332114214' post='1583621']
You can almost smell the massive bush and massive sunglasses.
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So, you remember that smell, Wayne?

Edited March 18, 2012 by EssentialTension

[waynepunkdude]

As someone born in the 80's thankfully not.

[EssentialTension]

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As someone born in the 80's thankfully not.
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You were lucky.

[waynepunkdude]

I've seen my dads porn, I dodged a bullet alright

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1332114622' post='1583629']
I've seen my dads porn, I dodged a bullet alright
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Was it all on Super 8?

[bengreen49]

smelly sunglasses? what manner of porn is this?

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='bengreen49' timestamp='1332116900' post='1583649']
smelly sunglasses? what manner of porn is this?
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3D aromaround

[discreet]

Not for me. Not Marcus Miller, bush, smelly sunglasses, slapping, 70s porn, none of it.

[discreet]

OK... 70s porn, then.

[louisthebass]

It's a different approach, I'll give it that.

[KERMITNT]

i wish i played like that as for the song we know miller has a soul in other songs like that [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1KA7C1LyPg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1KA7C1LyPg[/url]

he is great player this song is a great example of his thechnique in IMO!!

[dlloyd]

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332095225' post='1583172']
I'm not trying to force people to like Marcus, but I think this version of 'What Is Hip' by Tower Of Power is just incredible.

Technique, sound, feel, timing, dynamics...it's all here.
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It certainly showed a lot of technique and timing...

For me it's like watching somebody defeat the final boss on a video game for their hundredth time. It's clearly very, very difficult to do and he gets to the end without losing a life, picking up all the bonuses, without raising a sweat... but there's nothing on offer for me as a viewer. He looks bored, as does his band.

[Conan]

[quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1332161758' post='1584018']
He looks bored, as does his band.
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Much as I love MM's playing, I have to agree with this. I just think that the tempo is too fast to allow much in the way of feel, nuance or dynamics. To me, soul is more about the spaces in the music and this all sounds a bit frantic and rushed. Impressive but not enjoyable.

Sorry Pete!

Edited March 19, 2012 by Conan

[chris_b]

Despite my reservations, I don't see any bored musicians in this video. At this level of technical ability and playing expertise bored doesn’t figure.

They are all concentrating at a level that BC'ers can only dream of!

[Conan]

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1332163575' post='1584061']
They are all concentrating at a level that BC'ers can only dream of!
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Yeah, I guess it could be that. I forgot that Jazz isn't a very "visual" medium.

[gafbass02]

I want to like it tbh. I kinda don't though. It seems sort of ...
'I'm Marcus Miller, here's the bit where I have to do the crazy fast slapping thing, even though it doesnt actually fit the music that well but it's what people want me to do. Hey ho'

Y'know?!

It happens to me. Im no Marcus Miller, but I get 'bass solo' all the time. So I grin and go thwackedy whack and run up and down the neck stupidly fast and everyone goes 'oooohhh'. It's what they want and expect So I do it and remain glad that they like seeing me do it. -- while secretly wishing they noticed my subtle use of chords and harmonics or my fingering technique or my carefully balanced tone, or my tightness with the drummer or my ravishing good looks instead
But no.
So it's inappropriate thwackedy whack. 'ooohhhh'

[gafbass02]

That makes me sound right up myself.
I'm not! Especially not in this company!!