Dr.Dave Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='seashell' timestamp='1332761205' post='1592594'] Nobody's mentioned 'Aqualung' yet! But I guess that's not usually done by yer average covers band! [/quote] I always think a stange case is the Uncle Ernie bit from Tommy. Obviously fiddling about with a disabled kid is fine as long as it's under the umbrella of Keith Moon's OTT comedic portrayal. Then you look at the more recent hot water the Who's main writer got into - then you read that he asked John Entwhistle to write Uncle Ernies song because he ...er.... didn't think he could do that a good a job.........yes , that's it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='WHUFC BASS' timestamp='1332753887' post='1592402'] Oh yes, some strange sights. I was on a bus going back to the station and the driver said he wasn't going to let me off the bus because "... I hate southerners". Ha ha... classic. I think he was from Huddersfield. Bless 'im. [/quote] Jaysus! Now there's a hole... just be thankful they're still a league down and it's not an away fixture I'm kinda with Daz - maybe we should just play all the AC tracks and be damned? If so, we have enough suggestions in this thread for a 10-minute set - how shall we fill the other 50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='seashell' timestamp='1332755123' post='1592438'] And yet as far as I know it's still OK to do 'Delilah' and 'Hey Joe'. Which are both about murdering someone. [/quote] From the dawn of music until about 50 years ago punters couldn't get enough of songs about topping one's spouse, offspring, parents or other family member - e.g. Mattie Groves, Long Black Veil, Cocaine Blues, etc. The decline of this form is one I plan to redress in my long-delayed roots country outfit. Lots of stuff about poison, daggers and drowning. Plus hideous industrial accidents, wilful substance abuse and disrespectful gender objectification. It'll be a hoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1332763548' post='1592651'] The decline of this form is one I plan to redress in my long-delayed roots country outfit. Lots of stuff about poison, daggers and drowning. [b]Plus hideous industrial accidents[/b], wilful substance abuse and disrespectful gender objectification. It'll be a hoot. [/quote] Can't wait for that! This has got me trying to think of songs about hideous industrial accidents. The only one I can come up with is 'Big Bad John' ...I suppose there are several others about mining disasters as well. But they might all be a bit too PC for this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1332763548' post='1592651'] disrespectful gender objectification. [/quote] Cock rock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earbrass Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='seashell' timestamp='1332763928' post='1592657'] Can't wait for that! This has got me trying to think of songs about hideous industrial accidents. The only one I can come up with is 'Big Bad John' ...I suppose there are several others about mining disasters as well. But they might all be a bit too PC for this thread. [/quote] There's [i]Wreck of the Old 97[/i] (about a train crash) as performed by Johnny Cash on Live At St. Quentin (1969). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='Earbrass' timestamp='1332764198' post='1592665'] There's [i]Wreck of the Old 97[/i] (about a train crash) as performed by Johnny Cash on Live At St. Quentin (1969). [/quote] Oh yes, I suppose there are a few train crash songs as well. I was thinking more along the lines of 'I fell off a ladder and I wasn't wearing my hard hat'. Maybe silddx will come along with a few suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL POSTERS Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Dare I mention Short People by Randy Newman ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfEsmXbjcyg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6lY8UmMIUY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I presume if we intro any of the songs as "this is our post-modern ironic take on this" we'd get away with it... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1332762899' post='1592631'] I always think a stange case is the Uncle Ernie bit from Tommy. Obviously fiddling about with a disabled kid is fine as long as it's under the umbrella of Keith Moon's OTT comedic portrayal. [/quote] I don't think it was ever suggested that child abuse was in any way acceptable. In the context of the album, the song represents just one of the many horrors Tommy is subjected to - and it was sang by Entwistle. Moon's portrayal of Ernie as a leering grotesque was obviously played for dark comic effect, but can you imagine Ken Russell presenting it any other way in the context of the film? Despite this, there's no way anyone could think it was supposed to be fine or ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dave Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1332764810' post='1592684'] I presume if we intro any of the songs as "this is our post-modern ironic take on this" we'd get away with it... ? [/quote] I reckon that if the williams I play to need me to explain that to them they should have stayed at home in their yurt knitting themselves a dreamcatcher. There is a type of humour in English pubs - and especially English music pubs - that is an absolute national treasure , despite all the toss rod PC cowardly wimps of this world throwing all they can to stop it. I like that type of humour - I shall champion it at every opportunity and continue to get paid for doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 A band member of mine once refused to play a cover of the Rutles Goose Step Mama. Obviously a very tongue in cheek song to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqPY9juPZHE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dave Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='paul torch' timestamp='1332766915' post='1592731'] A band member of mine once refused to play a cover of the Rutles Goose Step Mama. Obviously a very tongue in cheek song to me. [/quote] I bet he's a riot at parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1332767159' post='1592734'] I bet he's a riot at parties. [/quote]tell me about it maybe it was their trousers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='Earbrass' timestamp='1332764198' post='1592665'] There's [i]Wreck of the Old 97[/i] (about a train crash) as performed by Johnny Cash on Live At St. Quentin (1969). [/quote] That's in. Always loved the line: "They found him there with his hand on the throttle / scalded to death by the steam". First million selling country record and written by a guy who saw the actual train crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1332596635' post='1590460'] Being the other side of fifty, I always feel a bit of a buffoon playing Teenage Kicks. [/quote] Why, do you stop w***ing when you get to 50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1332768498' post='1592773'] Why, do you stop w***ing when you get to 50? [/quote] [i]Au contraire[/i], but 'Middle-Age Kicks' doesn't sound quite right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboyslimfast Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Maybe there's a reworking there... "Old-age creaks so hard to beat...gut's so big I can't see my feet" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='fatboyslimfast' timestamp='1332769733' post='1592800'] Maybe there's a reworking there... "Old-age creaks so hard to beat...gut's so big I can't see my feet" [/quote] or my prick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboyslimfast Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Well, it would be more in line with the sentiments of the original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dave Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1332768498' post='1592773'] Why, do you stop w***ing when you get to 50? [/quote] I didn't start til I was 50 !! Why is it iffy to be singing teenage kicks in middle age?? I don't get that. Most songs are stories - stories are recollections about events in the past. You don't stop telling a tale about something that happened to you at school or in your 20's when you get to 50 so why wouldn't you sing about them with the same gusto? Middle aged people have memories of all of their lives - everyone remembers teenage kicks - if you want to sing about them at 50 , plenty of 50 year olds - and other ages too - will want to listen. At least it's something you know about. Makes me laugh to hear some pillock bawling out 'Sweet Home Chicago' in a Northern boozer and he's never been further west than Blackpool. Edited March 26, 2012 by Dr.Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckendrick Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) [quote name='BRANCINI' timestamp='1332612475' post='1590757'] Loads you woulnt sing, I wouldnt have sung whn they were new. Stones, Stray Cat Blues for nstance. Diferent times dont justify images like these ..... [/quote] Not a problem in Japan.... . Edited March 26, 2012 by mckendrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1332770339' post='1592811'] I didn't start til I was 50 !! Why is it iffy to be singing teenage kicks in middle age?? I don't get that. Most songs are stories - stories are recollections about events in the past. You don't stop telling a tale about something that happened to you at school or in your 20's when you get to 50 so why wouldn't you sing about them with the same gusto? Middle aged people have memories of all of their lives - everyone remembers teenage kicks - if you want to sing about them at 50 , plenty of 50 year olds - and other ages too - will want to listen. At least it's something you know about. Makes me laugh to hear some pillock bawling out 'Sweet Home Chicago' in a Northern boozer and he's never been further west than Blackpool. [/quote] Good post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='MSL' timestamp='1332716186' post='1592157'] It was 'Claire' saying to her Uncle Ray that she wanted to marry him, not the other way round on Gilbert O'Sullivan's recording. Nothing untoward there. [/quote] Nono, Claire said to Wilf that she wanted to marry him. Oh hurray. Gary Glitter's song lyrics don't have anything really dodgy - except for "Leader of the Gang" which has the line "I'm the man who put the bang in the gang". Can't see the problem with playing his stuff, there's some significantly dodgier characters issuing records after all. I rather think that "Sweeties" by the Handsome Beasts would raise a few eyebrows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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