bubinga5 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) i was having a bit of a jam tonight.. and at the end this track was playing across the speakers.... i personally think its the perfect pop song... it has the best pop voice of its day, he fused it with pop funk, its got the best musicians of its day.... and it makes you want to dance, and it sold millions... ok this was a while ago.. but i cant think of any track in the last 20 + years that can top it for pure pop greatness .. or pure talent... do you have favorite pop classic..?? he really did know how to make a killer track... imo... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-3JYuv9w4U&feature=related[/media] Edited March 31, 2012 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomE Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 We do a cover of this which never does it justice. Its a good track but TBH not one of my favourites. Its a bit too robotic to be truly funky and the fat bass synth sound is a bit of a grind after a while. The composition is great - just wish that it was played with some more "traditional" sounding instruments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1333185914' post='1598446'] . Its a bit too robotic to be truly funky and the fat bass synth sound is a bit of a grind after a while. The composition is great - just wish that it was played with some more "traditional" sounding instruments. [/quote] I wouldn't call it robotic...I think it really grooves and that the synth bass(with electric bass in the bridge) sounds perfect for the track. It's one of my favourite lines to play on synth. When you say 'traditional' instruments....what,like double bass,banjo,acoustic guitar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1333194949' post='1598556'] When you say 'traditional' instruments....what,like double bass,banjo,acoustic guitar? [/quote] Just for you. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrfY5vSy9Ns&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrfY5vSy9Ns&feature=related[/url] Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1333194949' post='1598556'] I wouldn't call it robotic...I think it really grooves and that the synth bass(with electric bass in the bridge) sounds perfect for the track. It's one of my favourite lines to play on synth. When you say 'traditional' instruments....what,like double bass,banjo,acoustic guitar? [/quote]i think the overall impression he has is that it sounds electronic.. and i agree with him, but look a little deeper and it has more... but all said and done.... i know what you mean Bottom E...but i think it gets the job done, of a classic pop song very well.. Edited March 31, 2012 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomE Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I love the approach to the bridge (the part with the little "real" bass solo bit). Na na na na (echo). It gets a mixed reaction though from punters and compared to other MJ or Jacksons stuff we do it doesn't appear to be as popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Mj did some good stuff in that period...I give you 'get on the floor' stellar Louis Johnson playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Hmmm... not wild about MJ re. 'Pop' as you had to call him 'King of Pop' contractually. I'd rather make up my own mind thanks. Record company/Simon Cowell 'must likes' fry my head. That said, enjoyed 'Human Nature'... but the Miles version here - mostly because of the insane build-up and then tension release in Kenny Garret's sax solo resulting in him exploding at about 8:30: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jkKTcG0xuw&list=FLhrqrINoAwxXhLWZ-LEKMSg&index=67&feature=plpp_video"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jkKTcG0xuw&list=FLhrqrINoAwxXhLWZ-LEKMSg&index=67&feature=plpp_video[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) Remember seeing Miles at the festival hall a few years ago, when he did 'Human Nature' and 'Time after Time'. A gig that was just something else, with Darryl Jones on Bass, John Scofield and Bob Berg. Garry Edited March 31, 2012 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 another killer track.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDqO4nxk3xI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 If that is the perfect pop song, pop should really eat itself. Does nothing for me, I am afraid (and I am not just being anti-pop). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 do you have a favorite pop track Bilbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatboter Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Everytime I hear PYT I remember this thing which happened yéars ago.. I was working at a big firm which constructed helicopters etc and my boss was an American here in Belgium. We always listened to the American Forces Network and they played this song PYT a lot.. Me and my boss (who was at the other corner of the room at his desk) had a habit of shouting out the "Ooh" part very loudly, no matter what happened. At a certain moment he was in a big meeting with some really important Japanese people and they were in this big transaction-discussion. Suddenly PYT was played on the radio and I was in big doubt : should I yell "Ooh" or not ? I decided to take the risk and to my surprise my boss turned away from the discussion and shared my "Ooh". Brings up memories every time I hear this song... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I love PYT, it's such a tune BB. Also really like Baby Be Mine if we're talking left field Thriller tunes. The whole album is finely crafted pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 To me this is the perfect pop song. Short, sweet melody, perfectly performed and utterly, utterly memorable and evocative. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTfwcLdP5Xk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 A favourite pop song? I would really struggle to get it down to one. Some I am fond of (but would neve claim them as the greatest etc....) [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY4-_VdmjdI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY4-_VdmjdI[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALWIj9ketA&ob=av2e"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALWIj9ketA&ob=av2e[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Or these... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4_wXPZ1Bnk&ob=av2e"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4_wXPZ1Bnk&ob=av2e[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyDRXbP1MaY&ob=av2e"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyDRXbP1MaY&ob=av2e[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8q8kB87APc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8q8kB87APc[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-rzL48_Y5Y&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-rzL48_Y5Y&feature=related[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jLGa4X5H2c"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jLGa4X5H2c[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQgUPxgqnfA&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQgUPxgqnfA&feature=related[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 PYT is a great Jackson tune. It's perfect for pop - whether its the perfect pop tune is just down to personal taste. The ultimate self indulgent writing [Music] and arranging of Pop for me was this. it was the 60's over the top at it's best. But my god why did Jimmy Webb not hire a singer ? And a Lyricist i suppose. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgPP2R1afw&feature=fvst"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgPP2R1afw&feature=fvst[/url] Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I find it strangely soulless actually. Didn't do much for me I'm afraid. Well crafted pop song you say? check this one out (OK it sounds dated but PYT does in its own way too); [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXq81-cGJr4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXq81-cGJr4[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1333219212' post='1598948'] Remember seeing Miles at the festival hall a few years ago, when he did 'Human Nature' and 'Time after Time'. A gig that was just something else, with Darryl Jones on Bass, John Scofield and Bob Berg. Garry [/quote] I was at that gig as well. Nearly everything has has paled beside it. I have never witnessed such a groove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 [quote name='owen' timestamp='1333320273' post='1600140'] I was at that gig as well. Nearly everything has has paled beside it. I have never witnessed such a groove. [/quote] I thought it was a pretty amazing experience, you just don't forget some gigs, Glad i got to see Miles, and on a great night. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalfunkbrother Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Hey Bubinga, that string arrangement on MJ's 'Heartbreak Hotel' has also been used on Damian Marley's 'There For You' albeit in a different rhythm and genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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