wateroftyne Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 [url="http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/exclusive-stream-rush-return-with-heavy-headlong-flight-20120418"]Full stream here....[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 A single clocking in at over 7 minutes! Not a bad tune actually but I think it could have done with a bit of trimming here and there like a good few from the last album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Oooh... listened to it a few times now, and I've just clicked that there's a fairly intensive instrumental break featuring just bass, drums and guitar. No walls of overdubs, just... the trio. Mint.. it doesn't happen very often these days. Edited April 18, 2012 by wateroftyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merello Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Just in case: [url="http://www1.rollingstone.com/hearitnow/player/rush.html"]Click to listen to Rush's 'Headlong Flight'[/url] Just noticed its the same link as above! Sounds excellent to me. Edited April 18, 2012 by merello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) [quote name='merello' timestamp='1334775661' post='1621177'] [url="http://www1.rollingstone.com/hearitnow/player/rush.html"]Click to listen to Rush's 'Headlong Flight'[/url] [/quote] Sounds like a decent track to me! Slightly reminiscent of the Foo Fighters perhaps? Could possibly do with a bit more "light and shade" though? Dymanic range is a bit "compressed" too - which seems commonplace these days. For a long track it comes across as a bit relentless to me... but that's after only two listens. Certainly better than their (for me) low point of Vapor Trails. Snakes and Arrows is OK, but they are a long way off their creative zenith of the late 80s and early 90s IMO. Some tasty playing from wor Ged there Can't wait for this album - pre-ordered it on Amazon yesterday Edited April 19, 2012 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1334840901' post='1622172'] Sounds like a decent track to me! Slightly reminiscent of the Foo Fighters perhaps? Could possibly do with a bit more "light and shade" though? Dymanic range is a bit "compressed" too - which seems commonplace these days. For a long track it comes across as a bit relentless to me... but that's after only two listens. Certainly better than their (for me) low point of Vapor Trails. Snakes and Arrows is OK, but they are a long way off their creative zenith of the late 80s and early 90s IMO. Some tasty playing from wor Ged there Can't wait for this album - pre-ordered it on Amazon yesterday [/quote] I agree, any enjoyment was generally lost from the relentless pummelling my ears got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Love the new track. It's got a real "f*** you, we're Rush!" vibe going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikhay77 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Mmm! Pretty decent track. Loved the early stuff,never a great fan of the 80s albums but thats what bands did in the 80s. Back on form for me anyway. Seen em live and they are spot on so a 5 stars,cant wait to hear the rest of the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonsmith Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='paulconnolly' timestamp='1334166308' post='1611948'] Yep thanks for the link. Ordered. I understood from interviews that Rush wanted to go in and remix S&A [/quote] I think that's Vapor Trails that they've been thinking of remixing (in fact two or three tracks already have been for a compilation). Some great playing on the new song, but it's a bit too long in time and short on melody to be up there with their best stuff. I've still ordered the album though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='mikhay77' timestamp='1335091922' post='1625520'] Mmm! Pretty decent track. Loved the early stuff,never a great fan of the 80s albums but thats what bands did in the 80s. Back on form for me anyway. Seen em live and they are spot on so a 5 stars,cant wait to hear the rest of the album. [/quote] Is it just me that can't stand the vocal harmony and obvious unison vocal double tracking? Still I pre-ordered the Classic Rock pack, and can't wait to get it. I'll probably be a bit non-plussed as is usual with latter day Rush albums, but I'm still a huge fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1335094699' post='1625582'] Is it just me that can't stand the vocal harmony and obvious unison vocal double tracking? [/quote] Nope - I'm royally sick of it, too. It's tiring to listen to. Edited April 22, 2012 by wateroftyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopsdabassist Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1335094699' post='1625582'] Is it just me that can't stand the vocal harmony and obvious unison vocal double tracking? [/quote] Fine by me, adds a little 'something' I feel, presumably that was the idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='Oopsdabassist' timestamp='1335095350' post='1625600'] Fine by me, adds a little 'something' I feel, presumably that was the idea? [/quote] That 'something' is called autotune I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayben Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 After a few listens, I can say it's a solid rock track, but I have a few complaints.. That Bastille Day fill is tired, and the phasing on the semi-quaver hi-hats has been done in a million other rush tracks o.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='Green Alsatian' timestamp='1334181234' post='1612351'] I wonder if Alex will be allowed to break out his effects again - I remember an interview where the producer of Snakes & Arrows banned him from using his effects. It's not the same unless he's plastered on the chorus. [/quote] Alex should really be given whatever creative freedom he wants. 'Hope' is still one of my favourite parts of Snakes and Arrows, could it be that he is the man with the answers and the ideas at the moment? I'm just getting back into my Rush records after a bit of a hiatus and I am struck by Lifeson's genius again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1335137236' post='1626333'] Alex should really be given whatever creative freedom he wants. 'Hope' is still one of my favourite parts of Snakes and Arrows, could it be that he is the man with the answers and the ideas at the moment? I'm just getting back into my Rush records after a bit of a hiatus and I am struck by Lifeson's genius again. [/quote] Alex is unique. He has been the deepest inspiration to me as a guitarist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buenavista Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I have read that they may be playing 'Signals' in it's entirety this upcoming tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbn4001 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Reasonably entertaining video on youtube [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcFGrWjOX0E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcFGrWjOX0E[/url] As for the tune - I agree with most on this thread in the "they ain't as good as they used to be" theme. I guess when you've been so great in the past (for so LONG with so much output) that a slide downward is inevitable? I loved Vapor Trails (production aside).. so fresh and energised with some great tunes.. but then they did their WORST album with S & A. I blame it on the producer they're using because he is a fanboy. I imagine him saying everything they do is great, whereas I reckon previous producers had the guts to challenge them when they weren't doing their best. I'll say this - the tune is better than all of Snakes and Arrows (with the exception of Far Cry perhaps). Also, I prefer the production compared to S & A.. bit drier and focussed. The bass tone is sounding better than it has in years too. Fantastic guitar in places. Alex is Rush's secret weapon for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 That 'Headlong Flight' tune is pretty good! Nice riff, some great bass playing stuff too. Very enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='jbn4001' timestamp='1335557755' post='1633254'] .....but then they did their WORST album with S & A. [/quote] Really? Worse than "Test for Echo"? I'm one of the few who think that "Snakes & Arrows" is one of the best things they've ever done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbn4001 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1335631681' post='1634055'] Really? Worse than "Test for Echo"? I'm one of the few who think that "Snakes & Arrows" is one of the best things they've ever done. [/quote] TfE is a little bland in places but it has some good tunes on it such as Time and Motion. IMHO S&A is far more complacent - even when compared to TfE. Cut and past assembly of tunes that go on for too long, uninteresting melodies, uninteresting pompous (even for Peart) lyrics.. I can't stand it and was very disappointed with it. Gotta hand it to them though - they've done far more in their career in both quality and quantity than most other rock bands.. so I can let it slide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1335631681' post='1634055'] I'm one of the few who think that "Snakes & Arrows" is one of the best things they've ever done. [/quote] +1, I thought it was a bit of a 'return to form' after TfE and V-Poor trails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I didn't mind Vapor Trails ('How It Is' is amazing, for instance) but S&A struck me as a pretty strong record. Much stronger and more consistent than say, Test for Echo or Counterparts. There were a couple of plodding moments but it overall it was very good. I do think though that they need to get away from just thinking as a guitar/bass/drum rock trio and get back to either some great proggy arranging like The Camera Eye or even better, get some synths out and start thinking about big, catchy melodies again. I've said it before though, and this will not be the last time I say it, but Rush turning out an average effort (by their standards) is better than most bands could even dream of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Hey, let's not start knocking Counterparts because that's just wrong wrong wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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