rumour6 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 It's easy.. you NEED both.. em want both, emmm ... had both. Try both, preferably playing the same set with the same band and gear and if at all possible the same venue... they're both fantastic at what they do and live the nuances of one will settle it for you... honest... problem is; change bands/set and.... it's Groundhog day!!! Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo-London Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Why try to get a P sound on a J and vice versa? Just play what you've got. I've never been told: "if only you had brought the Jazz" or vice versa. Just play what feels best in your hands. Or get both and then you can have this endless debate with yourself!!! I have 2 of each - but then I'm greedy. Peace Davo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='risingson' timestamp='1334329501' post='1614719'] I don't see the problem with people posting questions to others on a bass forum that satisfies their curiosity concerning two different kinds of bass guitars, especially since the OP has described himself as a newer player and many of us here are experienced with gear and such. If you don't like the topic, I would have thought it easier to simply not reply? [/quote] +1 Not forgetting of course, that things change. If this forum had been around 20 years ago then we'd all have laughed if someone asked if it was possible to have a 300W 2x10" bass cab or a 1000W bass amp... One of the many things that makes this forum a truly valuable resource is the up to date detail it contains and it's from revisiting topics to see if things have changed, and to pick up new detail that we hadn't considered relevant the first time around that feeds that value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPH Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I have to say my P-Bass is winning the battle against my jazz bass. It holds it's own better in a live mix and suits the way I play more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixdegrees Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 [quote name='JayPH' timestamp='1343079280' post='1745040'] I have to say my P-Bass is winning the battle against my jazz bass. It holds it's own better in a live mix and suits the way I play more [/quote] +1 to this. I now use my P exclusively for gigs. More punch and cut than my Jazz. And I now find Jazz necks too weedy for my liking (my P has a 44 mm nut). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPH Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 [quote name='sixdegrees' timestamp='1343080139' post='1745071'] +1 to this. I now use my P exclusively for gigs. More punch and cut than my Jazz. And I now find Jazz necks too weedy for my liking (my P has a 44 mm nut). [/quote] Me too. I thought the slimmer neck of the Jazz would be easier for me to play but I find the thicker neck easier. Bamboozled haha. It definitely punches through with a minimum of fuss whereas the Jazz Bass only seems suited to some tunes and then on other tunes I struggle to find a sound. The P Bass just does the job. Will probably keep my Jazz Bass though unless I could do some bartering for a Music Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 If in doubt, Precision. If needing 'flexibility', Jazz bass. Both basses work for pretty much any type of music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) I can make my RD Artist sound like I'm playing a set of tuned springs with the correct settings and plucking right at the bridge. Boing, boing, bwaang, boing! Edited July 24, 2012 by neepheid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='barnettiuk' timestamp='1334310084' post='1614125']It's claimed that "....................many bass players who want to be more "forward" in the mix (including smaller bands such as [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_trio"]power trios[/url]) prefer the Jazz Bass."[/quote] Maybe.... but when that particular marketing nugget was coined, what exactly did a three-piece consist of? What amps and (more importantly) speakers were they using? Does that statement still apply to the same degree today, with all the changes/improvements in instruments and amplification? Just wondering out loud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Hello, who resurrected this..? Read it again, and having joined a rock power trio, I would agree that a P is more useful in that situation. It got balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1334314805' post='1614280'] IAll of this can be altered/changed outboard with amps, effects,[b] wang[/b], EQ etc... [/quote] Wang? I've always loved the Precision sound but no Precision I ever played ever sounded right to me compared to what I was looking for. It took a PJ, my current bass, with active EQ to get the Precision sound I had in my head all these years. Combined with having a Jazz width neck which I prefer means that I'm as happy as the proverbial dog with 2 wangs. The only reason I'm selling my Rickenbacker, or at least trying to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Someone should start a separate 'wang' thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXZKv6CT2aQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXZKv6CT2aQ[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredde Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 This might seem like a stupid answer, but my conclusion after owning and playing both for some time is: Choose the one you think looks and feels better. Personally, I like the symmetric lines of the P body more, and I like the feel of the thicker neck. My jazz sounds good too, and maybe it's more versatile soundwise, but the P is just more "me". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero9 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I'd like to know where F3nd3r got the name 'Jazz' from, because AFAIK it doesn't have anything to do with the genre of music or was aimed at that market . The 'Precision' name has been explained. Maybe the 'Jazz' should thus be great for playing lot's of scales over chord changes and the 'Precision' more suitable for root note stuff . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) It was to match the Fender Jazzmaster guitar wasn't it? The guitar was initially aimed at jazz guitarists AFAIK Edited July 24, 2012 by Delberthot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1343130765' post='1745682']The guitar was initially aimed at jazz guitarists AFAIK [/quote] Read the headstock! It's called the "Jazz Bass". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='zero9' timestamp='1343130063' post='1745664'] I'd like to know where F3nd3r got the name 'Jazz' from... . [/quote] Maybe because "better than the Precision (for some people)" wouldn't fit on the headstock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1343131066' post='1745692'] Read the headstock! It's called the "Jazz Bass". [/quote] Read what I wrote again The Jazzmaster guitar was originally aimed at Jazz guitarists. The Jazz bass came out as the bass version to complement it and that is why it has that name, just like the original Precision complimented the Telecaster then was updated in 1957 to be more like a bass version of the strat with the headstock change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matejj53 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I think that compering those 2 basses is like compering Rhodes to Acoustic piano. Completely different instruments as a bass-guitar might looks same and more thinks on jazz but listen to both completely different instrument.I would love to have both Jazz and Precision just because of that. I have Jazz bass, Every now and than I play P bass it makes me play completely different way on different instrument. Do you agree? M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) I've tried various Jazz's, and never been too happy how they sit in the mix. Maybe if I was Geddy Lee with great PA, techs, etc, I would have sounded more prominent! I own a P for the reason I think it's a 'sledgehammer' bass - plug in anytime, anyplace, anywhere, and you can always cut through whatever mix. Had an interesting chat with a bespoke bass retailer recently. He was saying how people come to him with a Jazz bass in a rock setting and complain they can't be heard. He said - 'it even says it on the headstock - Jazz bass!!'. Made me laugh anyway! Edited July 24, 2012 by spongebob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Thinking of all the trios that i listen to, most seem to use Jazzes actually, because they seem to work better with effects i'd say. I play a P (With effects, totally contradicting myself, i know) just because it works so well for rock and i love the neck. Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPH Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='matejj53' timestamp='1343144339' post='1746008'] I think that compering those 2 basses is like compering Rhodes to Acoustic piano. Completely different instruments as a bass-guitar might looks same and more thinks on jazz but listen to both completely different instrument.I would love to have both Jazz and Precision just because of that. I have Jazz bass, Every now and than I play P bass it makes me play completely different way on different instrument. Do you agree? M [/quote] Totally agree with this. It's almost like the Bass dictates to you what to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='barnettiuk' timestamp='1334310084' post='1614125'] ......yet my perception (and I accept I may be wrong about this) is that it's never been quite as popular as the Precision and like for like seems to fetch a bit less on the market. Ian [/quote] If anything, I think the Jazz has been a bit more successful. It moved the game on considerably from the P bass and really kickstarted modern bass design. For a true appreciation of the jazz bass principle, just look at all the super-jazz basses made today. There is nowhere near the same demand for boutique P basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1343147882' post='1746121']Maybe if I was Geddy Lee with great PA, techs, etc,[/quote] Not to mention the constant involvement of the Custom Shop, brand new strings every gig, the aroma of roasting chicken.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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