pierreganseman Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 LOL nice clarky....... I've had some one calling me a scammer on ebay... after the bass was FULLY paid.... so... go figure... :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Horton Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Some people just have way too much spare time , What is wrong with people .................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It's your own fault Clarky. Your ad says: [i][b] It is a very manageable weight at 4.45kilos (or 9.8lbs). [/b][/i] But everyone knows that 4.45kilos is not 9.8lbs. It's 9.79lbs. Yup - you're dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierreganseman Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yeh very dodgy... :-p don't bother answering, i'd love another wal... just would be plain stupid... :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanew Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 PM'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierreganseman Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 thx dude buy it so i won't have to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanew Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 [quote name='pierreganseman' timestamp='1335202104' post='1627194'] thx dude buy it so i won't have to [/quote] I hope we can make a deal with Clarky. Pierre, have I to understand that you suffer from Wal addiction too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Hey Emanew, I have sent you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Bump with a reminder that this is FS on BassChat only if there are no bids on eBay (auction ends Friday, 41 watchers and two PMs saying they want to bid, one indicating he only bids in the last few minutes). However, I really would wish this to go to a BCer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanew Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Hi Clarky, I didn't see the notification (so your PM) yesterday evening, i should buy a smartphone with a real screen... Or a pair of eyes... Last night, i spent time on several sites and the Wal database. Now i know why this Bass, having a Pro Bass serial number PB1857, doesn't have a Pro Bass headstock (larger size and different shape). This Mk1 has a Custom Series look (golden hardware, new headstock) because it was done around 1982, 1983, 1984. The best know example is the beautiful Mick Karn's Mk1 which has a earlier PB serial number (PB1757)but was done in 1982. So it has a Custom series Look. To have a sharper idea, Clarky could you unscrew and take a picture of the back of the neck ? Ian and Pete used to write the date. I answer your PM, Clarky. Edited April 24, 2012 by Emanew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Hi, I will take a picture of the back of the neck tonight if it helps ... and if it doesn't stop me watching the Barcelona v Chelsea match! Cheers Clarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barend Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Emanew' timestamp='1335259478' post='1627962'] Last night, i spent time on several sites and the Wal database. Now i know why this Bass, having a Pro Bass serial number PB1857, doesn't have a Pro Bass headstock (larger size and different shape). This Mk1 has a Custom Series look (golden hardware, new headstock) because it was done around 1982, 1983, 1984. The best know example is the beautiful Mick Karn's Mk1 which has a earlier PB serial number (PB1757)but was done in 1982. So it has a Custom series Look. [/quote] This bass is a very early Mk1. So kind of a transitional model. So that is why it has a PB serial number. There are some other Wals which also have that. Nothing strange. What date is written inside the cavity? Edited April 24, 2012 by barend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanew Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Clarky' timestamp='1335259725' post='1627973'] Hi, I will take a picture of the back of the neck tonight if it helps ... and if it doesn't stop me watching the Barcelona v Chelsea match! Cheers Clarky [/quote] Don't rush ! Nothing more important than the match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Post #20 shows a photo of the control cavity I took yesterday. As far as I can see it doesn't mention a date in the handwriting, just the woods involved. Edited April 24, 2012 by Clarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) According to this Wal history the last 'Pro' bass was PB1859, by which stage the bass was the Mk 1 in all but name [url="http://www.trevorandthea.eclipse.co.uk/history2.html"]http://www.trevorand...k/history2.html[/url] Thus my bass (PB1857) was the third-to-last manufactured Pro bass and can be considered a transition model due to the Mk 1 electronics, headstock etc Edited April 24, 2012 by Clarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 In answer to question about posting to mainland Europe, I will do this for £75 insured. That is my best guess as to how much it would be, based on the c.£60 cost of sending a couple of basses to Italy and Finland last year, neither of which were insured. If it costs more then its my loss. If it costs less I will refund the difference via paypal. Sound fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 What happened to that shiny foil on the inside of the controlcaviety? It looks a bit brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) [attachment=106001:P1050103.JPG][attachment=106002:P1050102.JPG][attachment=106003:P1050100.JPG] Further pics - foil is copper (which is why it looks brown!), no date on neck (do Wal date necks as I don't recall my last one having a date stamp on the neck either?) Edited April 25, 2012 by Clarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanew Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Clarky' timestamp='1335262278' post='1628062'] According to this Wal history the last 'Pro' bass was PB1859, by which stage the bass was the Mk 1 in all but name [url="http://www.trevorandthea.eclipse.co.uk/history2.html"]http://www.trevorand...k/history2.html[/url] Thus my bass (PB1857) was the third-to-last manufactured Pro bass and can be considered a transition model due to the Mk 1 electronics, headstock etc [/quote] To add to Clarky' link, here the Wal data base, beautiful and famous Wal basses... Mick Karn and its Tullip top, respect ! [url="http://www4.cs.fau.de/~koesters/Privat/Wal/walspec.html"]http://www4.cs.fau.d...al/walspec.html[/url] For the date on the neck here examples [url="http://www.jedistar.com/jedistar_vintage_guitar_dating_w.htm"]http://www.jedistar....ar_dating_w.htm[/url] Two others necks for a 1987 Wal MK1, thanks to the owner. Dates written by the masters luthiers Edited April 25, 2012 by Emanew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 (edited) All i can say is my bass is older than those two examples and does not have a date stamp. The previous owner before me (BC'er sselterf) dated it as 1981 and based on the serial number (PB1857) that seems right to me (PB1840 and PB1859 the last PB built, two after mine, were both listed as 1981 in the Wal database) [attachment=106121:P1050097.JPG] Edited April 25, 2012 by Clarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 Oh well, 52 watchers and not one bid by the auction close (despite one guy telling me he would definitely bid in the last few minutes and an earnest guy from Belgium providing his phone number, contact details etc and clearing it with me that he could pay by bank transfer instead of paypal). Ho hum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barend Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Emanew' timestamp='1335389535' post='1630489'] For the date on the neck here examples [url="http://www.jedistar.com/jedistar_vintage_guitar_dating_w.htm"]http://www.jedistar....ar_dating_w.htm[/url] Two others necks for a 1987 Wal MK1, thanks to the owner. Dates written by the masters luthiers [/quote] Not all Wal basses have dates written on the neck. I guess it would be 50%. Most have the date written in the cavity plate. But there is absolutely no reason to believe that this bass isn't from '81. And to be honest it doesn't really matter as long as it isn't a Fender. Wal basses are solid over all years. So it doesn't really matter from which date it is. It isn't the best time to sell expensive instruments but just be patient Edited April 28, 2012 by barend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 Thanks Barend. I think you are right and patience is the key word here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierreganseman Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 yep one way or another, a buyer ALWAYS shows up all you have to do is wait, and not give in to people offering 5 squiers and £300 for a wal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Thanks Pierre! Rainy Sunday bump with a nice video of Japan featuring the wonderful fretless Wal player Mick Karn (RIP) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuiRBLa7pdA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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