It's a thumb rest FFS How much??????

[Twigman]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-P1965-1966-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Thumb-Rest-/140761667778?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D150840789260%252B150840789260%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D101425799417088307"]http://www.ebay.co.u...425799417088307[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-Pre-CBS-1962-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Thumb-Rest-/130705414938?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1e6ea65b1a"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1e6ea65b1a[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-1960-1961-1962-Pre-CBS-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Thumb-Rest-/140774988106?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item20c6d7d94a"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item20c6d7d94a[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-Pre-CBS-1963-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Thumb-Rest-/140774989772?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item20c6d7dfcc"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item20c6d7dfcc[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-Pre-CBS-1964-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Thumb-Rest-/130713193017?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1e6f1d0a39"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-Pre-CBS-1964-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Thumb-Rest-/130713193017?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1e6f1d0a39[/url]

Edited June 22, 2012 by Twigman

[LukeFRC]

spot the difference boys and girls

http://www.amazon.com/Bass-Thumbrest-Black-Plastic-Screws/dp/B002MWOA3M

[chrismuzz]

I thought this thread was going to be about 5 string basses

[heminder]

it's not nearly as bad as crummy, old, and rusty potentiometers selling for hundreds - [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-1966-Fender-Precision-Bass-Telecaster-Guitar-Pots-Electronics-/140761667608?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item20c60c9818#ht_1869wt_1189"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-1966-Fender-Precision-Bass-Telecaster-Guitar-Pots-Electronics-/140761667608[/url]

it's a gamble if they still even work.

[Fuzzbass2000]

Wow. You could buy one of these instead:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EBONY-THUMB-REST-THUMBREST-MUSTANG-JAZZ-PRECISION-BASS-/230813934168?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item35bd952258#ht_674wt_1270"]http://www.ebay.co.u...8#ht_674wt_1270[/url]

.... and they're made of real wood.... (they [u]are [/u]fab by the way)

Edited June 23, 2012 by Fuzzbass2000

[BassBus]

[quote name='Twigman' timestamp='1340408986' post='1704285']
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-P1965-1966-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Thumb-Rest-/140761667778?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D150840789260%252B150840789260%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D101425799417088307"]http://www.ebay.co.u...425799417088307[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-Pre-CBS-1962-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Thumb-Rest-/130705414938?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1e6ea65b1a"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1e6ea65b1a[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-1960-1961-1962-Pre-CBS-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Thumb-Rest-/140774988106?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item20c6d7d94a"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item20c6d7d94a[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-Pre-CBS-1963-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Thumb-Rest-/140774989772?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item20c6d7dfcc"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item20c6d7dfcc[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Vintage-Pre-CBS-1964-Fender-Jazz-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Thumb-Rest-/130713193017?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1e6f1d0a39"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1e6f1d0a39[/url]
[/quote]

But the fourth and fifth ones come with a free hand. Good value.

[Musky]

I just knew they were from the 'gnomes in the attic' guy without even looking.

[andydye]

[quote name='Fuzzbass2000' timestamp='1340416230' post='1704326']
Wow. You could buy one of these instead:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EBONY-THUMB-REST-THUMBREST-MUSTANG-JAZZ-PRECISION-BASS-/230813934168?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item35bd952258#ht_674wt_1270"]http://www.ebay.co.u...8#ht_674wt_1270[/url]

.... and they're made of real wood.... (they [u]are [/u]fab by the way)
[/quote]

Yep, I had a rosewood one and it was superb!

[andydye]

So, if folks need to buy lots of period/year correct parts for their restoration project, is that not still a bitsa?

[molan]

Ok - I am going to set myself up for ridicule here

I paid about £50 for an original '63 thumb rest to sit on my '63 Jazz.

As thumb rests age they tend to warp around the screw holes and original nitro-cellulose pickguards also go out of shape directly in line with the warped shape of the thumb rest.

I saw the one I bought on US EBay from a very reputable old parts dealer in Nashville and could see the warped shape looked near identical to the indentation in my original nitro pickguard.

Took a flyer on it & it fits absolutely perfectly. You can actually hold the bass nearly vertical without any screws in the thumb rest and the indentations hold it in place without falling off.

It was the only thing missing from my '63 & I didn't fell like £50 was much of an investment to finish off the original look.

Of course I could have bought a $5 one, screwed it too tight & left it to warp naturally & then roughened it up a bit to make it look like it was nearly 50 years old but I kinda like the fact that it's an old bit of Fender history performing a vaguely useful function - purely aesthetically because I don't even use it to play with

[MB1]

MB1.
How do you tell what date they are? are they dated/ numbered on the actual thumbrest?

[discreet]

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1340433785' post='1704347']
I just knew they were from the 'gnomes in the attic' guy without even looking. [/quote]

But people are buying his stuff!! Mostly Americans it's true, but still...

[TheGreek]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1340465049' post='1704833']
But people are buying his stuff!! Mostly Americans it's true, but still...
[/quote]


You know what they say.." a fool and his money.."

[BassBus]

And what happened to the basses they used to be attached to? Or is this someone stockpiling for 50 years just to corner the market?

[Rick's Fine '52]

As Molan says, if this is what you need to complete your original vintage bass, then you'll pay what its worth to you?

If you have an all original '62 jazz missing the thumbrest, I can assure you that it would more than recover its $150+price, if you added one of these, and then had an all original '63.

I think the main issue with some of these sellers, is that they strip out perfectly good guitars, because they can make more by parting them out. It should be a crime. If a guitar is broken, then fair enough, recycle the parts, but just to break one up for more bucks is a real shame.

Hey ho, thats life. He probably makes bucket loads out of it?

[Musky]

[quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1340489810' post='1705310']
As Molan says, if this is what you need to complete your original vintage bass, then you'll pay what its worth to you?

If you have an all original '62 jazz missing the thumbrest, [b]I can assure you that it would more than recover its $150+price, if you added one of these, and then had an all original '63.[/b]

I think the main issue with some of these sellers, is that they strip out perfectly good guitars, because they can make more by parting them out. It should be a crime. If a guitar is broken, then fair enough, recycle the parts, but just to break one up for more bucks is a real shame.

Hey ho, thats life. He probably makes bucket loads out of it?
[/quote]

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1340434701' post='1704355']
So, if folks need to buy lots of period/year correct parts for their restoration project, is that not still a bitsa?
[/quote]

Although I agree with the general point of your post, I think Andy has hit the nail on the head. To my mind an instrument is only all original if no parts have been replaced, period correct or not.

Of course if you can persuade a buyer that it still as it left the factory, who's to know the difference?

Candy Apple Jazz anyone?

[Nibody]

Fool and their money and all that. I think shoving a thumbrest in the oven would have the same effect. And these... [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140749566013"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140749566013[/url] I mean come on, $75 for a couple of strap buttons?? I'm sure our relicing nemesis's could recreate that with a bit of acid etch and a cheap chinese copy. I cant believe someone is buying up classic vintage instrumeents and parting them out. I CAN believe (going by the amount of "Reliced" rubbish on ebay) that people are capable of ageing parts. Maybe I should sell the bridge off my Jaqpcrap Precision (Which is very nice with early 60's style threaded saddles) as a Genuine 60's bridge in the states?! Not saying they arent what he claims, just pointing out they may not be, or could be from old junked Jap copies even.

[Mattbass97]

For that price i should just take the thumb rest off my squier slap a pair of rusty screws on it and there we go £140... how can u even be sure its real the one on my squier is the exact same mould?!

[Nibody]

[quote name='Mattbass97' timestamp='1341078405' post='1713647']
For that price i should just take the thumb rest off my squier slap a pair of rusty screws on it and there we go £140... how can u even be sure its real the one on my squier is the exact same mould?!
[/quote]

My point exactly

[mikhay77]

Yeh but you wouldnt get the authentic tone! I have some 1951 P bass dust I scatter on my bass just before recording. Its amazing!

[HazBeen]

The prices some people pay just to be able to say "original" is ridiculous. I never got that must be old to be good thing.

[Rick's Fine '52]

[quote name='HazBeen' timestamp='1341227411' post='1715307']
I never got that must be old to be good thing.
[/quote]

I don't think anyone is suggesting that. It's about it being period correct. Its never gonna be better, just because it's old, it's a piece of plastic!

[skidder652003]

[quote name='Fuzzbass2000' timestamp='1340416230' post='1704326']
Wow. You could buy one of these instead:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EBONY-THUMB-REST-THUMBREST-MUSTANG-JAZZ-PRECISION-BASS-/230813934168?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item35bd952258#ht_674wt_1270"]http://www.ebay.co.u...8#ht_674wt_1270[/url]

.... and they're made of real wood.... (they [u]are [/u]fab by the way)
[/quote]
+1 theyre ace, loads nicer than the stock fender sh**e

[LukeFRC]

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1340457463' post='1704699']
Ok - I am going to set myself up for ridicule here

I paid about £50 for an original '63 thumb rest to sit on my '63 Jazz.

As thumb rests age they tend to warp around the screw holes and original nitro-cellulose pickguards also go out of shape directly in line with the warped shape of the thumb rest.

I saw the one I bought on US EBay from a very reputable old parts dealer in Nashville and could see the warped shape looked near identical to the indentation in my original nitro pickguard.

Took a flyer on it & it fits absolutely perfectly. You can actually hold the bass nearly vertical without any screws in the thumb rest and the indentations hold it in place without falling off.

It was the only thing missing from my '63 & I didn't fell like £50 was much of an investment to finish off the original look.

Of course I could have bought a $5 one, screwed it too tight & left it to warp naturally & then roughened it up a bit to make it look like it was nearly 50 years old but I kinda like the fact that it's an old bit of Fender history performing a vaguely useful function - purely aesthetically because I don't even use it to play with
[/quote]

well that actually makes sense.
[quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1340489810' post='1705310']
As Molan says, if this is what you need to complete your original vintage bass, then you'll pay what its worth to you?

If you have an all original '62 jazz missing the thumbrest, I can assure you that it would more than recover its $150+price, if you added one of these, and then had an all original '63.

I think the main issue with some of these sellers, is that they strip out perfectly good guitars, because they can make more by parting them out. It should be a crime. If a guitar is broken, then fair enough, recycle the parts, but just to break one up for more bucks is a real shame.

Hey ho, thats life. He probably makes bucket loads out of it?
[/quote]
Thats what I think is wrong about this. Jimmy's specialist guitars co. (or Rick's Fine Guitars even!) is a brill shop and specialise in vintage basses and parts. no problem, you want something you go to them, and you know that at the heart of it they are passionate about old gear.
It gets odd when it's guys on ebay splitting the things for profit.