JTUK Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 If you are asking me..then I'll make a mistake...sure..but last night they came about as I was getting too fancy with the light show so that is down to lack of concentration... which 90% probably are. And considering the horrible room we had..low beams and slim enclosed which made on stage sound not that great, I think it went well, all things considering. You have to be even more on your toes when the sound isn't ideal. Quote
BassTractor Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 This is BC again! I'm proud. In this now comfy atmosphere of openness, I too will admit I made a mistake. Don' remember exactly, but I think it may have been in '63 - '64. Quote
Valhalalf Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 This thread has been so uplifitng for me to read. I've been worrying no end for the last few months as I really felt like I've been letting my band down and worried I would get replaced, even though I helped set it up and they're all my mates (proper paranoia). I don't think I've done a single gig mistake free in the 12 months this band has been going, and it's always songs I've played fault free 100 times before. A momentary lapse of concentration and in goes a mistake, then I spend the rest of the song beating myself up over it, which means I make more mistakes and so the loop continues. I've only seriously been playing bass for 2 years and still feel I've got a long way to go. I've played guitar for 20+ years, studied it at music college and can shred like the best of them, but it bored me so I switched to bass. I thought it would be an easy swap but I was very wrong and I feel like a begginer again which doesn't help my confidence when I bust out a mistake. My probelm, and it is purely a confidence issue, is I know the other people in the band have played with some incredible bassists over the years and everytime I make a mistake I get it into my head they're getting fed up with it. What I need to start doing is forget about the mistake as soon as it happens and laught it off. Like everyone has been saying, we're only human. Quote
oggiesnr Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I don't make mistakes, I play variations, often a different one each time through. Perfection is over-rated Steve Quote
chris_b Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) [quote name='norvegicusbass' timestamp='1340469368' post='1704946'] ....Anyone else plagued by mistakes?.... [/quote] They're not mistakes; just poor choices. If you can hear and care about the mistakes you are making then there is hope. You just have to practice until you don't get it wrong. In the past I've played with people who don't even know they're screwing up. Now that's disheartening. Edited June 25, 2012 by chris_b Quote
Bilbo Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 No such thing as a wrong note, just a poor choice. Quote
redbandit599 Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 If you do try the 'play the same mistake again' approach, don't forget to scowl at the guitarist at the same time like it's their fault. Works a treat... Quote
LukeFRC Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 Heres something to try next practice.... when you are playing something substitute say half the notes in a pattern/riff/chord sequence with random ones. Or do the "Play the song without using any root notes" game. You'll probably find, that if what you play is in time then it will sound ok. different maybe, but ok You play all the "right notes" out of time slightly, or even just on the changes, it will sound bad. Quote
lurksalot Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 [quote name='Cameronj279' timestamp='1340470201' post='1704971'] This video springs to mind... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jFAhN6V9s[/media] [/quote] Ha Ha , I think thats how lead guitar theory works Quote
spinynorman Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 [quote name='Valhalalf' timestamp='1340627452' post='1707187'] This thread has been so uplifitng for me to read. I've been worrying no end for the last few months as I really felt like I've been letting my band down and worried I would get replaced, even though I helped set it up and they're all my mates (proper paranoia). I don't think I've done a single gig mistake free in the 12 months this band has been going, and it's always songs I've played fault free 100 times before. A momentary lapse of concentration and in goes a mistake, then I spend the rest of the song beating myself up over it, which means I make more mistakes and so the loop continues. I've only seriously been playing bass for 2 years and still feel I've got a long way to go. I've played guitar for 20+ years, studied it at music college and can shred like the best of them, but it bored me so I switched to bass. I thought it would be an easy swap but I was very wrong and I feel like a begginer again which doesn't help my confidence when I bust out a mistake. My probelm, and it is purely a confidence issue, is I know the other people in the band have played with some incredible bassists over the years and everytime I make a mistake I get it into my head they're getting fed up with it. What I need to start doing is forget about the mistake as soon as it happens and laught it off. Like everyone has been saying, we're only human. [/quote] The thing is, don't your band mates make mistakes? You probably think they don't, but I bet they do. Quote
Chris Horton Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 [quote name='Cameronj279' timestamp='1340470201' post='1704971'] This video springs to mind... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jFAhN6V9s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jFAhN6V9s[/url] [/quote] Thanks for posting the clip - I have never seen this before I have learnt something new Love it Quote
seashell Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 There is some brilliant advice in this thread and I'm going to try to take it all on board. In particular to pratice slowly so the mistakes dont become 'learned' and to practice in various distracting conditions. As an actor, I have known fellow actors get really arsey at rehearsals if for eg a stage tech is fiddling with the lighting or building the set around you. But I always think 'if I can keep going through this I'll easily cope with some old biddy rustling a packet of werthers originals, or some tosser receiving texts in the front row' So discreets advice about practising with distractions and not hearing properly makes a lot of sense to me. Quote
sarah thomas Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1340629338' post='1707235'] No such thing as a wrong note, just a poor choice.[/quote] Your mate Julian is even more positive - he say 'No such things as mistakes, just interesting choices.' Quote
thepurpleblob Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 If you don't make mistakes then you're not learning anything. Quote
discreet Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 [quote name='thepurpleblob' timestamp='1341683940' post='1722796'] If you don't make mistakes then you're not learning anything.[/quote] That's the one! 'A man who can't make a mistake can't do anything.' Quote
Lord Sausage Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 [quote name='Cameronj279' timestamp='1340470201' post='1704971'] This video springs to mind... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jFAhN6V9s[/media] [/quote] bit patronising! Quote
groovebuster Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 james brown sacked any1 who played a bum note on stage. i hear mcdonalds are hiring. so wats the moral of the story..? we aint playin games here. its life or death man. oops i sliped said the rabbit, dinnertime said the fox. Quote
groovebuster Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 altho a wise man once said, as long as i learn i will make mistakes. we love u MCA. Quote
lowdowner Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Mistakes? Hmmm... you're doing something miraculous: giving a little bit of yourself to those people fortunate enough to be listening to live music (which is a privilege). Just enjoy it, and forget about the mistake - they show you're human and add a quality to the music that only a computer can't replicate. The less you stress about it the more you'll enjoy - but you'll still make mistakes - that's human Listen to Miles Davis (especially on 'a kind of blue') and stop worrying about mistakes and think more of the music... Quote
ezbass Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 I went to see Eric Johnson, who I consider to be one of the best guitar players on the planet, the other day. He dropped the ball on more than occasion, but it didn't matter, it didn't detract from the entire performance and, I think, gave hope to all the wannabes in the audience. Making mistakes gives you room for improvement rather than the potential for being blasé. Quote
mep Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1340541334' post='1705773'] We don't call them mistakes, we call them beer notes.. [/quote] I can't wait for our next gig and use this with our guitarist, who drinks, when he makes a mistake - usually in one or more of his solos. Quote
flyfisher Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Interesting video. Seems like my technique of sliding up/down the neck until I find a decent sounding note is not so way out. Quote
chaypup Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) [quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1340541334' post='1705773'] We don't call them mistakes, we call them beer notes.. [/quote] We call them [url="https://sites.google.com/site/7947e518703066c9/"]Quogs[/url]. Edited July 13, 2012 by chaypup Quote
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