What year is this Jazz bass?

[deanovw]

Not mine, but I have been interested in [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170871659742?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1413"]this ebay ad:[/url]

So much so that I went to view it.

See pics below. But what year is it? BTW, I dont know.

[deanovw]

more pics:

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[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/SAM_8137.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/SAM_8136.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/IMAG0131.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/deanovw/IMAG0130.jpg[/IMG]

[cloudburst]

Hmm. Now I may be wrong - but I'm thinking that any value that this instrument may or may not have held is now long gone.

Personally, I'd avoid. But that's me.

CB

[LukeFRC]

is it a 80's tokai?

[LukeFRC]

my guess 1982 -1984

[LukeFRC]

sorry, 1981-84

[LukeFRC]

replacement pickups of some kind- added by someone who can't solder!


in perfect condition....£450 or so.... in that condition..... er.....

Edited July 6, 2012 by LukeFRC

[franzbassist]

I am no expert, but I would say there is no way that is an L series Fender.

[Mr Bassman]

I'd say the neck at least is [url="http://hank75.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/tokai-jazz-sound-1983.html"]Tokai[/url] judging by the machines

50 year old Fender machines look like this [attachment=112384:photo-11.JPG]

[ash]

[quote name='Mr Bassman' timestamp='1341602897' post='1721791']
I'd say the neck at least is [url="http://hank75.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/tokai-jazz-sound-1983.html"]Tokai[/url] judging by the machines

50 year old Fender machines look like this [attachment=112384:photo-11.JPG]
[/quote]

Agreed as soon as I saw the heads I thought Tokai Jazz Sound. Tokai also rather cheekily used an L prefix on their early MIJ serial numbers. Approach with caution.

[deanovw]

That makes sense. Things start to fall into place.

[Ou7shined]

[quote name='Mr Bassman' timestamp='1341602897' post='1721791']
I'd say the neck at least is [url="http://hank75.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/tokai-jazz-sound-1983.html"]Tokai[/url] judging by the machines
....
[/quote]

Or used to be. It bears the tell-tail signs of amateur sanding... loss of definition to edges.

[deanovw]

Thanks everyone. I found these ebay auctions which prove the facts.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1980s-Tokai-Jazz-Sound-Black-Jazz-Bass-Guitar-MIJ-/280914949584?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4167d5f5d0"]one[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1970s-80s-Tokai-Jazz-Sound-Sunburst-Jazz-Bass-Guitar-MIJ-/221065389888?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3378862740"]two[/url]

this place is great.

[franzbassist]

Well done team... so who's pointing this out to the eBay seller?

[ash]

I think that honor should go to Mr deanovw but I'd be happy to deputise if necessary!

[deanovw]

I told the seller I would update them with anything I found.

Email sent.

[simon1964]

It certainly isn't a '63 Jazz.

A 63 would have clay dots, not pearl.

The bridge should be spiral groves

There are no holes for the ashtray covers

Machine heads are the wrong shape

There should be a date stamp on the neck butt end

And it just doesn't look right!

[OliverBlackman]

the bridge saddles are different to my tokai. Looks older if anything and i think mines an '86

[ash]

[quote name='OliverBlackman' timestamp='1341619473' post='1722061']
the bridge saddles are different to my tokai. Looks older if anything and i think mines an '86
[/quote]

In the original ad he says that the saddles have been changed, also it would be an earlier model.

[gjones]

I almost bought an early surf green 81-82 Tokai for £300 on ebay about a month ago. That was all original so I'm thinking this one would be lucky to fetch £200.

[mckendrick]

That's never been a Fender as long as I've had a hole in my a***.

Carry on.

[LukeFRC]

[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1341622680' post='1722090']
I almost bought an early surf green 81-82 Tokai for £300 on ebay about a month ago. That was all original so I'm thinking this one would be lucky to fetch £200.
[/quote]

the one up loch lomond way? with the schaller bridge? Was owned by someone on here, they couldn't get it set up properly, Jimmy Moon couldn't either so sold it for about £300 in Moon guitars stores- turned up a month later at twice the price in the lovely CC music with the action just high enough you wouldn't clock half the issues- sold and then a month later was on ebay again!

[gjones]

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1341648742' post='1722191']
the one up loch lomond way? with the schaller bridge? Was owned by someone on here, they couldn't get it set up properly, Jimmy Moon couldn't either so sold it for about £300 in Moon guitars stores- turned up a month later at twice the price in the lovely CC music with the action just high enough you wouldn't clock half the issues- sold and then a month later was on ebay again!
[/quote]

Phew! That was a close one then. I almost bought it.

[warwickhunt]

[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif] [size=4]'[color=#000000]And brushed affect varnish.'[/color][/size][/font]

[size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][color=#000000]WHAT! It's an 'affect' as in he has tried to achieve this level of crappiness! [/color][/font][/size] Edited July 7, 2012 by warwickhunt

[cloudburst]

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1341648742' post='1722191']...in the lovely CC music...
[/quote]

Sounds like some irony there.
I'd love to hear the story! :-)

CB