Pinball Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 wow thanks, thats almost worth the trip on its own. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick_Official Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1343321005' post='1748961'] wow thanks, thats almost worth the trip on its own. Much appreciated. [/quote] Sept. 8, 2012 we're having an Open House Day - in celebration of Warwick's 30th Anniversary. Many of our artists will be there, including Lee Sklar, Steve Bailey, Jonas Hellborg, TM Stevens, Verdine White, Larry Graham, Bootsy, Rob Trujillo, Hansford Rowe, and many more! We'll have live music, factory tours, meet & greets, food & drink....join us! : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) What an opportunity, unfortunately your speaking to a man on a budget here and I would have to sell all my gear and take out a loan to get there. your bad! When I'm famous I'll come along to the next one. I could visit the Stern Pinball factory while I was in the US If I don't make it could you send me a nice 5 string LX once its over? A great invite..thanks! Edited July 26, 2012 by Pinball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttitudeCastle Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Warwick_Official' timestamp='1343238147' post='1747611'] Have you seen this one? Stunning... [/quote] Other than the inlays it's perfect! Not helping buddy Will have one in my home some day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 lovely but a bit OTT for my tastes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomBassmonkey Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I love Warwicks. If you know the Gallien tone, Warwicks are a bit like the bass version of that. loads of growl and meat but still versatile enough to do a wide variety of tones (though they'll always sound like Warwicks). I actually went to them about an endorsement a while back, I think they were focusing on their amps at the time and I got offered one for them but no bass endorsement so I've moved on over time. I still miss my Thumb though, I saw someone playing one at a gig a couple of weeks ago and remembered mine with a smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Every Warwick I have owned has been superb. Very distinctive tone and versatile. But, some folks don't like them because the necks are quite chunky and...well...let's face it, they look a bit weird! As much as I love the Warwick tone I have had criticisms from engineers/producers. For example, a guy that I have worked for for many years hate them. He says that they are very 'clicky' sounding and refuses to record with them. Which really cheesed me off as the first time I worked with him all I had at the time were Warwick's! I ended up using his battered MIM J with 2yr old strings on it! I wouldn't go as far to say that they are marmite basses...that would be overboard, but some folks don't get them because they stand out a little too much may in an unconventional or perhaps an untraditional way. I only have one Warwick left and my taste is changing to Fender and MM type tones these days, but I will always have at least one Warwick in my collection because they are so much fun to play and if I ever want something a bit out of the ordinary and provokative I have something to reach over to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick_Official Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 We did change from the chunky necks back to the slim necks in 2009 as standard. We currently offer 3 neck profiles on 4 string basses, and a 4th (Broadneck) profile on 5 and 6 string basses. You can view the differences here: http://warwick.de/modules/custom_shop/options.php?TYP=WOOD_NECK&submenuID=14620&katID=14626&cl=EN When it comes to engineers/producers...a lot of them seem to listen with their eyes lol! Recording something that they aren't used to isn't the players fault. Players should play the instrument that allows them to speak their voice as a musician...and not what an engineer is used to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='Warwick_Official' timestamp='1343346633' post='1749453'] When it comes to engineers/producers...a lot of them seem to listen with their eyes lol! Recording something that they aren't used to isn't the players fault. Players should play the instrument that allows them to speak their voice as a musician...and not what an engineer is used to! [/quote] Amen to that brudda! My heart sank when Jeff told me to switch to that battered J when after I played him my brand spanking new Dolphin! The bass was like "Don't you know who I am? Philistine!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick_Official Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='shizznit' timestamp='1343345668' post='1749447'] but some folks don't get them because they stand out a little too much may in an unconventional or perhaps an untraditional way. [/quote] This is very true! We build relationships with Artists who love the product, and build a bond with both the product and the company. If you look at our Artist Roster, its filled with many unconventional and untraditional artists. Its a VERY broad spectrum...and there are many who certainly fit the conventional bill...but there is quite a bit of unconventional/untraditional!!: T.M. Stevens, Bootsy Collins, Stuart Zender, Steve Bailey, Jonas Hellborg, P-Nut, Norwood Fisher, Jack Bruce, Robert Trujillo, Andy Saxton, Dick Lövgren, Jeroen Paul Thesseling, Ryan Martinie, Scott Reeder, and so many more original sounding bass players. At the end of the day, variety is the spice of life!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick_Official Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='shizznit' timestamp='1343347655' post='1749468'] Amen to that brudda! My heart sank when Jeff told me to switch to that battered J when after I played him my brand spanking new Dolphin! The bass was like "Don't you know who I am? Philistine!" [/quote] And a Dolphin at that!! I'm telling you...that guy had no idea what that bass was capable of. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 Interesting, I can understand people not liking them because of the shape or the natural sound of an instrument but to not like all of the various Warwicks seems extreme. Any brand with character seems to polarise opinion e.g. Harley Davidson Motor Cycles Having strong characteristics is good in terms of creating a brand and catching peoples attention. I guess that is why I started this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Last year I was gigging my Thumb 4 with a punk/reggae band and it didn't look or sound out of place at all. Sure it doesn't look like a Fender but it's not an outrageous shape and the body has an understated grain rather than a flashy figured top. You can wear a Thumb to any gig I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1343378705' post='1749689'] Last year I was gigging my Thumb 4 with a punk/reggae band and it didn't look or sound out of place at all. Sure it doesn't look like a Fender but it's not an outrageous shape and the body has an understated grain rather than a flashy figured top. You can wear a Thumb to any gig I reckon. [/quote] Agreed, I think the Spector and Warwick shapes are well established. The don't get that embedded in "bass culture" without a good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='Warwick_Official' timestamp='1343238147' post='1747611'] Have you seen this one? Stunning... [/quote] This is my favourite Warwick and my second favourite bass. Can I have one please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 It does seem to me that some producers are just unwilling to leave behind their Fender presets when mixing. Just sayin'. I happen to love the Warwick shapes, they're quite distinct, elegant and the natural wood look is beautiful. My incoming RB Corvette will make a great pairing with my Overwater Contemporary J I reckon, on all counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1343393394' post='1750069'] It does seem to me that some producers are just unwilling to leave behind their Fender presets when mixing. Just sayin'. I happen to love the Warwick shapes, they're quite distinct, elegant and the natural wood look is beautiful. My incoming RB Corvette will make a great pairing with my Overwater Contemporary J I reckon, on all counts. [/quote] Hehe, that's why you mod your fender. Any producer when mixing my Pbass will get a shock if they expect it to sound "stock" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick_Official Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1343393394' post='1750069'] It does seem to me that some producers are just unwilling to leave behind their Fender presets when mixing. Just sayin'. [/quote] I will agree with this on all counts! I've seen it happen quite a few times, and it only made me see that some producers wear blinders when it comes to things out of their comfort zone. Unfortunately a lot of players don't want to upset the guy who's going to make their album...but in my experience it stifles creativity. I also have seen this happen more to bass players than any other member of a band... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTypeV4 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 From a live engineering point of view, you should always have a few different 'tools in the bag' to help make things fit together. That is the ultimate goal for a great mix. Everything should be individual and distinct as well as the mix soundling integral at the same time. I know that sounds like waffle but its kept me going for many years.. Personally, I love it when a group comes in and the bass player has a Warwick because I know there's a good chance I can make it fit* even if the sounds of the kit and other instruments aren't great. They're as easy to smooth out as they are gnarl up, whatever the situation calls for. * As long, of course the guy/girl can actually play the thing! Had to get that in, Warwicks are good but they don't have extra talent inside them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick_Official Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='VTypeV4' timestamp='1343408853' post='1750403'] From a live engineering point of view, you should always have a few different 'tools in the bag' to help make things fit together. That is the ultimate goal for a great mix. Everything should be individual and distinct as well as the mix soundling integral at the same time. I know that sounds like waffle but its kept me going for many years.. Personally, I love it when a group comes in and the bass player has a Warwick because I know there's a good chance I can make it fit* even if the sounds of the kit and other instruments aren't great. They're as easy to smooth out as they are gnarl up, whatever the situation calls for. * As long, of course the guy/girl can actually play the thing! Had to get that in, Warwicks are good but they don't have extra talent inside them! [/quote] Great perspective...and that disclaimer is absolute truth! Instruments are a tool...and a good tool can assist us in making things great, but it still has to be used properly! Thanks for this post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 [quote name='Warwick_Official' timestamp='1343407552' post='1750371'] I will agree with this on all counts! I've seen it happen quite a few times, and it only made me see that some producers wear blinders when it comes to things out of their comfort zone. Unfortunately a lot of players don't want to upset the guy who's going to make their album...but in my experience it stifles creativity. I also have seen this happen more to bass players than any other member of a band... [/quote] That's very true. I do find that the experience is very different since I have been a session musician over the past few years. I get paid to deliver exactly what the producer or song writer wants and I have less of a say into what goes down. I have to be much more flexible and agreeable. Bringing kit along that helps me to that is invaluable. But, despite my best efforts to bring along quality kit along to the job sometimes the producer wants me use the house amps or basses. Not very often thank goodness, but I have met a couple of producers that are set set in their ways and don't allow very much room for manoeuvre. Going back to the conversation about Warwick bass tone... One of the main reasons why I played nothing but Warwick years ago is because I got great feedback from FOH engineers about how well the tone balanced on the desk and how well it projected in the mix. As most of my time back was spent on stage rather than the studio it was a logical and very rewarding switch. Mmmmmm...happy days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTypeV4 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 [quote name='shizznit' timestamp='1343475943' post='1751238'] That's very true. I do find that the experience is very different since I have been a session musician over the past few years. I get paid to deliver exactly what the producer or song writer wants and I have less of a say into what goes down. I have to be much more flexible and agreeable. Bringing kit along that helps me to that is invaluable. But, despite my best efforts to bring along quality kit along to the job sometimes the producer wants me use the house amps or basses. Not very often thank goodness, but I have met a couple of producers that are set set in their ways and don't allow very much room for manoeuvre. Going back to the conversation about Warwick bass tone... [i][b]One of the main reasons why I played nothing but Warwick years ago is because I got great feedback from FOH engineers about how well the tone balanced on the desk and how well it projected in the mix. As most of my time back was spent on stage rather than the studio it was a logical and very rewarding switch. Mmmmmm...happy days![/b][/i] [/quote] Definately a +1 from this FOH engineer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 [quote name='Warwick_Official' timestamp='1343407552' post='1750371']I will agree with this on all counts! I've seen it happen quite a few times, and it only made me see that some producers wear blinders when it comes to things out of their comfort zone. Unfortunately a lot of players don't want to upset the guy who's going to make their album...but in my experience it stifles creativity. I also have seen this happen more to bass players than any other member of a band...[/quote] Last time I was in the studio with a producer I didn't know I tracked everything on a Jazz bass, then the producer spotted my Thumb standing in a corner and made me track everything with that too. He ended up using the Thumb tracks on most of the tunes. So there are some good guys out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 can't wait to get my warwick fixed up. what's the tone? gooooooood is what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick_Official Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 [quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1343649996' post='1753041'] Last time I was in the studio with a producer I didn't know I tracked everything on a Jazz bass, then the producer spotted my Thumb standing in a corner and made me track everything with that too. He ended up using the Thumb tracks on most of the tunes. So there are some good guys out there. [/quote] That is a great story!....and also sounds like a one of the good guys! Thanks for sharing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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