FX Noob Question

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[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1343232888' post='1747505']
...be good if you could get to a shop and try out some for yourself.[/quote]

I may just have to do that thing.

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[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1343234257' post='1747529']
I've only got one rectum though.[/quote]

*Snort!*

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This here box before the BDI would drive it a bit harder, would it not? And then I can remain in cheapskate mode!

[url="http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/behringer-pb100-preamp-booster--29372"]http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/behringer-pb100-preamp-booster--29372[/url]

Edited July 25, 2012 by discreet

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Or this..? Eurgh, I'm getting confused now... the price of these Behringer pedals... maybe just buy the lot, eh..?

[url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002EWPX54/ref=asc_df_B002EWPX548917458?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=googlecouk06-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B002EWPX54"]http://www.amazon.co...ASIN=B002EWPX54[/url]

Edited July 25, 2012 by discreet

[Dave Vader]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1343235194' post='1747551']
I know, I know. I've resisted FX for nearly forty years.
I don't want more than 4 strings though, that's going too far!
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and here's mister discreet in a couple of months, hankering after the perfect tone...


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[paul_5]

^ Look at his posture - that's a guitarist posing as a bassist! ^

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[quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1343250152' post='1747885']
...and here's mister discreet in a couple of months, hankering after the perfect tone...[/quote]

Bloody hell! And how did that guy get hold of my custom P..??

[Dave Vader]

yeah he looks like a GIMP......

[cheddatom]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1343235899' post='1747567']
This here box before the BDI would drive it a bit harder, would it not? And then I can remain in cheapskate mode!

[url="http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/behringer-pb100-preamp-booster--29372"]http://www.dv247.com...-booster--29372[/url]
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Much like trying to use the level of your playing to control the gain on the BDI this comes with problems. IMO yes you could use a booster to drive the BDI into higher gain, however, it'd also increase the low end/low mids of your sound, and so when you take the boost off it feels lacking.

I really think an EQ pedal would be the way to go. You could use it as a booster anyway (leave flat and turn up volume), so you get to try the above experiment, but also you would be able to address the above problem if i'm right.

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[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1343295660' post='1748364']
Much like trying to use the level of your playing to control the gain on the BDI this comes with problems. IMO yes you could use a booster to drive the BDI into higher gain, however, it'd also increase the low end/low mids of your sound, and so when you take the boost off it feels lacking.[/quote]

Glurk! Oh dear, I've already pulled the trigger on one of these:
[url="http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/PB100.aspx"]http://www.behringer...ucts/PB100.aspx[/url]

BUT - I was thinking of having the above permanently on - when I was first considering the pre/power thing at Happy Jack's I noticed his SansAmp had way more balls than the BDI-21, so I could use probably use some more beans anyway...

Edited July 26, 2012 by discreet

[cheddatom]

let us know how you get on!

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[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1343301807' post='1748496']
let us know how you get on![/quote]

Thanks, I will. The PB100 will arrive first thing. Hooray for consumer capitalism!

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[b]UPDATE:[/b]

The prevailing economic system delivered my PB100 at 9 o'clock on the dot this morning, and instead of carrying out my daily chores I have been avidly messing about with it. And the PB100. *hollow laugh*

I'm using it in front of my BDI-21, and it certainly does drive that little bugger hard! So much so that I need to reduce the amount of drive I normally use. What's good is that with a lot more beans going into the power amp, my sound is now massive. It wasn't feeble before by any means, but I think the cost of this unit is well justified! *rumble, quake*

Cheddatom was right though - I like a fairly scooped sound in my rock trio, but now I have two boxes with treble and bass boost and no mid control whatsoever, so I'm going to go for the Behringer EQ pedal and give myself a few more options.

This of course will boost my input gain even more, so it should all be very interesting indeed!

And I still haven't addressed the original issue of having filth at the touch of a button. May have to get a disto unit, too!

I can see how this happens... one pedal leads to more pedals... I've avoided FX for years, now it looks like I'll need to get a bloody pedalboard, 9v power bank, etc, etc.... more later!

[paul_5]

OR you could 'man up' and pull the trigger on one of these bad boys...

http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/page29.html

They're the kipper's knickers!

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[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1343393431' post='1750071']
OR you could 'man up' and pull the trigger on one of these bad boys...
[url="http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/page29.html"]http://www.davehalla....uk/page29.html[/url] They're the kipper's knickers![/quote]

I would do so like a shot, but I just haven't got the folding. Hence the crappy Behringer love.

[paul_5]

Ah, 'twas always thus.