yamahabass Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) hey.. just getting back into playing and practising and posting up my progress in a youtube vid. Using a jap fender jazz 62' with dimazio ultra jazz, badass and ultralites hope u enjoy cheers! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-An-jQBCoM[/media] Edited August 26, 2012 by yamahabass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwood Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Awesome!! And your just getting back into playing??! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 You need to pace youself more. Start somewhere and go somewhere else. Tell a story, as Lester Young said. You hit the ground running with your best licks and them just played some stuff that bore little relationship with what had gone before or what was going on around you. You can obviously play, now you just need to play something that matters. I am being harsh. Your stuff is better than most of the stuff on here by a country mile but you could be a lot better if you focussed on the music and not on the instrument. The secret is not to impress but to express. Try again and play about 40% less. Actually, if you want to really try something difficult as an exercise, try and play a meaningful solo with only eighth notes, no sixteenths. Or try something like only playing a maximum of 7 notes a bar of any note value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 No matter how hard I try I just don't "get" jazz, good playing though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Good stuff dude. About pacing yourself - good idea. But the real problem is soloing over so many chorus's, 4 1/2 minutes - it's to long. Makes it hard to keep the interest up, but no fear we are all guilty on that one... Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Some truth in that, Garry, but it is a good discipline to think of a solo as an arc with a beginning a middle and an end. Coltrane had to do it over 45 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 You have great technique and knowledge, that is clear, but you need to calm down a bit man! Bilbo is right. Build it, softly, gently, don't rape me, make love to me. Other than that, formidable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Fine technique, great chops, congratulations. Now play it again, musically, please..? ([i]Sincerely, no malice intended[/i]...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahabass Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 thx for the kind responses and advice, i think im 'angry playing' due to having a bad day at the building site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsieblue Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Again - as per your other video 'yamahabass' As requested by PM for my benefit and others: Impressive playing you've posted up there. This is something I've started to try getting into as well. Can I ask what scales / chord tones / substitutions you are visualising / thought processes / thinking about on the neck when you are playing? Are you mentally thinking to outline / connect each chord change? Are you thinking anything in terms of chord subs etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigPlaysBass Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 [quote name='bagsieblue' timestamp='1346963035' post='1795503'] Again - as per your other video 'yamahabass' As requested by PM for my benefit and others: Impressive playing you've posted up there. This is something I've started to try getting into as well. Can I ask what scales / chord tones / substitutions you are visualising / thought processes / thinking about on the neck when you are playing? Are you mentally thinking to outline / connect each chord change? Are you thinking anything in terms of chord subs etc? [/quote] I would be interested too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahabass Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) hi thx for your interest! Can I ask what scales / chord tones / substitutions you are visualising / thought processes / thinking about on the neck when you are playing? Ok well thats an easy question to answer: i use all the things you have mentioned, starting from Major harmony to Minor (harmonic and melodic) i use the scales and modes and chords as a map in my mind so that i can build shapes over those shapes/scales. i like bebop so if you look at that concept you will notice that it adds one extra chromatic note , there are quite a few books written about this, but mark levin covers most in the 'jazz theory book' Are you mentally thinking to outline / connect each chord change? not really outline but exploit the shapes and sounds that go with them. for example you can see on your fretboard all the scales and modes, chords you practise and then say if you have a line or shape or lick , you can see how it works harmonically. thats why you have to learn all your scales and modes and chords! Are you thinking anything in terms of chord subs etc? yes, if i have time in the solo and i play it through a few times i can start approaching a chord sequnce from a different place, one thing i love to do is instead of playing the 2 chord ( dorian mode or minor 7th chord) i think of it as a VI chord (aerolian and from there i can even stack underneath a phyrigian mode, (III chord ,minor 7th b9 ) or then go next to it and play a IV chord (lydian) because there are shapes that fit within those modes (chord scales). also i am trying to get away from modes, and play off the chords more, like real beboppers did, but thats another story i hope that answers some questions, thats just how i approach things. Im probably wrong about most things so dont take everyting i say as gospel. my main advice is listen to players and find out how you want to sound, then work out how to arrive to sound like that. if you put the work in then you will find it obvious how a particular player is pulling their way of playing off. but everyone has their own approach. for example most players prefer melodic minor for minor II-V's but i prefer using harmonic minor, i can use melodic but what i like the sound and shapes that comes from the harmonic. check out Carol Kay for some jazz theory, she really knows her stuff! well thx for taing the time to listen, and let me know f you need anymore advice, i will try my best to help out! Edited September 6, 2012 by yamahabass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1346258439' post='1787147'] You need to pace youself more. Start somewhere and go somewhere else. Tell a story, as Lester Young said. You hit the ground running with your best licks and them just played some stuff that bore little relationship with what had gone before or what was going on around you. You can obviously play, now you just need to play something that matters. I am being harsh. Your stuff is better than most of the stuff on here by a country mile but you could be a lot better if you focussed on the music and not on the instrument. The secret is not to impress but to express. Try again and play about 40% less. Actually, if you want to really try something difficult as an exercise, try and play a meaningful solo with only eighth notes, no sixteenths. Or try something like only playing a maximum of 7 notes a bar of any note value. [/quote] really really good points i am in awe of your playing/technique and tone but as someone once said .............. its the notes you leave out that matter................. so i agree with bilbo's comments i particularly like the line - The secret is not to impress but to express. this is probably an age thing when you are young you are into technique and impressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahabass Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 [quote name='gareth' timestamp='1346979404' post='1795702'] really really good points i am in awe of your playing/technique and tone but as someone once said .............. its the notes you leave out that matter................. so i agree with bilbo's comments i particularly like the line - The secret is not to impress but to express. this is probably an age thing when you are young you are into technique and impressing [/quote] haha i wish i ws young, im 37! but i work on the building site so its a kind of escape, sometimes im feeling stressed after a hard day and thats normally when i play the bass to chill me out a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) This is really funny. I played a DJ's private birthday party with London Zulu tonight. I bumped into a bassist and we had a cracking chat about bass He was a really cool geezer and great to hang about with .. I asked if he was a Basschat member. He was, he's the OP, yamahabass This has happened to me a few times but never after I'd posted that I'd rather they make love to me rather than rape me (see my post above) Joe Goose, great to meet you man, hope to catch you at the Mau Mau gig on Dec 7, I probably owe you a beer Edited November 4, 2012 by silddx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) [quote name='yamahabass' timestamp='1346969967' post='1795625'] [b]my main advice is listen to players and find out how you want to sound, then work out how to arrive to sound like that. if you put the work in then you will find it obvious how a particular player is pulling their way of playing off. but everyone has their own approach.[/b] [/quote] This is absolutely the key for me, it's how I approach music, and the more you play and compose, the more you become true to yourself. It's a reflection of your influences and sounds that give you pleasure, but it's all mashed by your personality. Edited November 4, 2012 by silddx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zad the dreamer Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 u have a great tone , ur playing is really cool. i d like to hear your own music/composition . zad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol303 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1351997818' post='1857733'] This is really funny. I played a DJ's private birthday party with London Zulu tonight. I bumped into a bassist and we had a cracking chat about bass He was a really cool geezer and great to hang about with .. I asked if he was a Basschat member. He was, he's the OP, yamahabass [/quote] Ha ha , brilliant! Gotta love Basschat for that kinda thing Can't really comment on the video other than to say your playing is WAY out of my league, and so I'll defer to the greater knowledge of those above to give you pointers. It sounds good to me; a very impressive pace and great skills whether rushed or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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