neepheid Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I just get tired of hearing negative stuff about these amps when my experience has been anything but and feel like a pretty lonely voice extolling the virtues so I'm bound to over-compensate. You are entitled to your opinion and your judgement call about whether or not to purchase one of these amps, but it is disappointing to see unsubstantiated blanket statements being bandied about. Sorry for the rather sarcastic and testy attempt to say that earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Musky Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 FWIW I have the BA500 head and it's working fine. Having said that, it was only bought so I could use it at the odd gig where I wanted to hang around for a drink or several afterwards. So it's only been used half a dozen times. I'm not sure anything about it's reliability can be gleaned from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1352469739' post='1863483'] I just get tired of hearing negative stuff about these amps when my experience has been anything but [/quote] As you of course know, positive experiences can't be extrapolated either. We have to get an impression from the "data" that fora like BC can give us, and work from there. By large, the impression will do. [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1352469739' post='1863483'] Sorry for the rather sarcastic and testy attempt to say that earlier. [/quote] Class. best, bert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I had one of the HB combos. Small, light and loud. However, I had problems with it and ended up sending it back. Thomann's customer service is ace. It won't stop me buying other HB gear in the future - in fact I have one of their 210 cabs on it's way to me right now. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyonbass Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I've been using an Ibanez P500 head for a couple of years now, I did have a problem with the input gain circuit when it was just out of warranty, but a local tech sorted it for thirty quid, and (touch wood) its been fine since. Oh and it sounds excellent with my BFM cabs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redstriper Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 [quote name='andyjingram' timestamp='1352559209' post='1864617'] Whilst trawling the web on my hunt for small amps I noticed that the Harley Benton version is no longer available. [/quote] This one seems to be available: [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_ba500h.htm?sid=e4e17c634179083a0a361ad36cae2bae"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_ba500h.htm?sid=e4e17c634179083a0a361ad36cae2bae[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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solo4652 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Folks, You're not going to believe this. I took delivery of a Promethean 3110 this morning from Thomann. Of course, it came with a 2-pin plug European power lead, so I used a new UK, standard 3-pin plug power lead. Read the manual, fired up the amp and it all worked properly, as far as I could tell. Played for 45 mins while trying out different EQ settings, then had lunch. Fired it up again after lunch - oh dear. First, there was a crackling noise, then the amp lost volume, then the volume came and went randomly. I tried a different instrument lead, different power lead, different bass - all with the same result. Finally, I used my Eden E10 combo which worked perfectly as usual. So, looks like the Promethean's faulty. Going to return it to Thomann. Not sure wether I want a replacement now. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Oh, FFS - what a nightmare. This might sound partronising, but bear with me. Does the mains lead sit tightly in the socket? I mean solid-as-a-rock? No wobble at all? If not, shove it in really hard (baby!) until it locks. They're a Really snug fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo4652 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1352733134' post='1866669'] Oh, FFS - what a nightmare. This might sound partronising, but bear with me. Does the mains lead sit tightly in the socket? I mean solid-as-a-rock? No wobble at all? If not, shove it in really hard (baby!) until it locks. They're a Really snug fit. [/quote] OK - I'll try that. I have 2 mains leads so I'll try both and report back. Mutter, effing, $%@!... OK - I've just re-tried both of my power leads, ensuring that they were well-and-truly pushed home into the power socket. Same result for both - crackle, volume coming and going, then silence. I've just emailed Thomann. Thing is, I'm now wondering whether I want another one, or something else. Steve Edited November 12, 2012 by solo4652 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockpicker1969 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 They wont give you your money back, thats what i asked for. i told them i had lost all faith in their product and all that ........ but no they wouldnt play ball. you would have thought they would know about this problem by now. i even emailed them the link to this site for them to have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I thought [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Thomann offered a 30 day money back guarantee on all their products.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]It's printed on their packaging and advertised on the web site.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I suppose you're on your own after 30 days though.[/font][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockpicker1969 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 sorry your right they do offer a 30 day money back guarentee . it was just my luck for it to happen after 2 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1352733447' post='1866677'] OK - I've just re-tried both of my power leads, ensuring that they were well-and-truly pushed home into the power socket. Same result for both - crackle, volume coming and going, then silence. I've just emailed Thomann. Thing is, I'm now wondering whether I want another one, or something else. Steve [/quote] Oh, man - how frustrating. Ibanez missed a trick with these. If they'd sorted the QC out, they could have had a legendary bit of kit in their catalogue. When you get a good'un, they're THAT good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 That's a real shame! I was actually considering maybe swapping my older version for the new one, even though its not as powerful, the eq section is a lot more along the lines of what I prefer, not a huge fan of graphic EQs... Might hang fire for a bit me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo4652 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Yeah - I'm well and truly p***ed-off this morning. I think I'll ask for a full refund and look out for a 2nd hand Minimark or Tecamp Puma, apart from the fact they'll still cost appreciably more than the Promethean. Or maybe I'll continue to take my GK MB500/Barefaced Compact rig to rehearsals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Sorry to hijack this thread but, I'm looking at getting a small combo for home use and wondered if you guys with the Promethean can tell me are the aux/mp3 - in and headphone outputs decent quality soundwise? I'd like something I would be to be able to playalong and practice songs. Also when you plug the headphones in does it disconnect the speaker output? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1352814734' post='1867720'] Sorry to hijack this thread but, I'm looking at getting a small combo for home use and wondered if you guys with the Promethean can tell me are the aux/mp3 - in and headphone outputs decent quality soundwise? I'd like something I would be to be able to playalong and practice songs. Also when you plug the headphones in does it disconnect the speaker output? Thanks. [/quote] I quite often plug my Mac into the aux and use headphones to practice and as far as my ears can tell the quality is pretty darned good! Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='eude' timestamp='1352816011' post='1867744'] I quite often plug my Mac into the aux and use headphones to practice and as far as my ears can tell the quality is pretty darned good! Eude [/quote] Yip - it's fine. It makes for a great PA for playing an iPod through at garden parties, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respector Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Not heard much about the RedSub on this thread so far, having just bought one, I haven't used it at a gig yet. Saturday should be its debut. Fingers crossed that it passes muster. I'm not getting rid of my Hartke just yet though. Will keep you all posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) I've not really followed these new Prometheans much, but just had a nose about and they look rather neat. Mind you, it's the first time I've seen an amp with a 'Phat' control. Now if they could do one with a 'Talent' control, I'd be sorted... Edited November 16, 2012 by RandomBass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='Respector' timestamp='1353013786' post='1870610'] Not heard much about the RedSub on this thread so far, having just bought one, I haven't used it at a gig yet. Saturday should be its debut. Fingers crossed that it passes muster. I'm not getting rid of my Hartke just yet though. Will keep you all posted. [/quote] Matt, Neepheid has one, and is very VERY impressed with it, I think he actually replaced a Hartke head with it as it happens. Like the majority of us Promethean/Red Sub/HB users, he's had no problems at all, people usually only tend to report problems, not awesomeness. As far as I'm aware, I don't think I've heard of any reported problems about the Red Sub ones in particular, the design of the combo for that and the HB ones isn't quite as nice, IMO, but they do all the same tricks and a much cheaper price point. [quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1353056465' post='1870946'] I've not really followed these new Prometheans much, but just had a nose about and they look rather neat. Mind you, it's the first time I've seen an amp with a 'Phat' control. Now if they could do one with a 'Talent' control, I'd be sorted... [/quote] The older ones only have a "Vibe" control, I've never felt the need to be a bit more "vibey", whatever that means... Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I've just ordered one of the newer style Promethean's from Thomann, couldn't find the old 500watt type anywhere .. Any problems and it will go back always had a good service from Thomann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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