pst62 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 MIJ early 90's Squier my arse. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200814601881&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200814601881&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelagnostic Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I would never have known, which I suppose makes me ignorant. No surprise there. What are the tells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 Lack of skunk stripe and headstock shape. Only the JV's, some of the Affinity's and more recently the CV's don't have them. Also The headstock shape is more in keeping with an Affinity. See link below for a proper '90's MIJ Squier. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Squier-Bass-Guitar-1990-Japan-MIJ-Precision-P-Bass-Black-Squire-Like-USA-/130756609378?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1e71b38562"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Squier-Bass-Guitar-1990-Japan-MIJ-Precision-P-Bass-Black-Squire-Like-USA-/130756609378?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1e71b38562[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennysFord Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Aaah but you're missing the point here, The relic'd one comes with a bespoke fag burn, you don't see that much attention to detail these days ya know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 'Relic' instruments are getting on my nerves a bit now, especially homemade ones. I tell you what...I will see if this can transfer the relic method to other items in life. I'll leave my car under a tree for a few years, smash a couple of windows, scratch the paint with an angle grinder, place some random fag burns into the seats, deflate the tires and slap 35% more onto the resale value. Anyway...about the bass. I agree with pst62. The giveaway is definitely the neck. I have never seen a MIJ Squire (circa '90-'99) bass with that logo on it. Also, the heel plate looks completely wrong too. Shouldn't it be bigger? MIC P's and J's are normally that small (I might be wrong, but pretty sure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 As above. Looking at the headstock shape and neck, I would roughly guess M I K circa 1997. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudburst Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='pst62' timestamp='1346881847' post='1794557'] Lack of skunk stripe... [/quote] Not making any comment on what this bass is or isn't....but I thought that you only tended to get the skunk stripe with maple fingerboards, as it was necessary to cut a channel in the back of the neck to install the truss rod, whereas with rosewood, the fretboard would be lifted to install the rod. CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1346883978' post='1794606'] Not making any comment on what this bass is or isn't....but I thought that you only tended to get the skunk stripe with maple fingerboards, as it was necessary to cut a channel in the back of the neck to install the truss rod, whereas with rosewood, the fretboard would be lifted to install the rod. CB [/quote] Hmmm...I had a Silver Series Squire J that had a rosewood fingerboard and a skunk stripe. Those models were built by the Jap's in the early 90's too I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1346883978' post='1794606'] Not making any comment on what this bass is or isn't....but I thought that you only tended to get the skunk stripe with maple fingerboards, as it was necessary to cut a channel in the back of the neck to install the truss rod, whereas with rosewood, the fretboard would be lifted to install the rod. CB [/quote] It's not necessary to have a skunk stripe on a neck with a rosewood board but it standardises the manufacturing process when you're also making maple board versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Every P bass I've owned (apart from my old Hondo II and my sadly long gone JV) have had a skunk stripe, whether they had a Maple or Rosewood board. I've had a few cheap Affinity's that have not had the stripe. This is the last of such, no back shot but you can see the Headstock is the same shape as the one in my OP. [attachment=117625:Sunburst Affinity P Bass.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) The early nineties MIJ Squier basses have a black truss rod adjuster at the headstock like todays mexican Fenders. This one is natural. I know because I have one. Edited September 6, 2012 by gjones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydentaku Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 [quote name='pst62' timestamp='1346869525' post='1794320'] MIJ early 90's Squier my arse. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200814601881&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123"]http://cgi.ebay.co.u...E:X:AAQ:GB:1123[/url] [/quote] Have you reported it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 [quote name='jaydentaku' timestamp='1346922165' post='1794779'] Have you reported it? [/quote] Aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 You never know, the poor guy was probably told this bogus info when he bought the bass himself and took it for gospel being none the wiser. Happens all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 [quote name='shizznit' timestamp='1346925542' post='1794820'] You never know, the poor guy was probably told this bogus info when he bought the bass himself and took it for gospel being none the wiser. Happens all the time. [/quote] True it does, and this could sadly be a case of that! But I sent him a message stating my concerns but up to now have got no reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uke Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 "professionally aged by an expert in this field" Should this not read " professionally aged by an ex pat in his field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 [quote name='uke' timestamp='1346941133' post='1795106'] "professionally aged by an expert in this field" Should this not read " professionally aged by an ex pat in his field? [/quote] " professionally aged by an cow pat in a field" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudburst Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Ref stripe - I've no knowledge of what goes on with various copies. But back in the days of just Fender P's and J's, all the ones with rosewood boards were stripeless. CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 [quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1346954884' post='1795345'] Ref stripe - I've no knowledge of what goes on with various copies. But back in the days of just Fender P's and J's, all the ones with rosewood boards were stripeless. CB [/quote] The bloke 2nd from bottom on here [url="http://www.fender.com/community/forums/viewtopic.php?p=59965"]http://www.fender.com/community/forums/viewtopic.php?p=59965[/url] seems to know the in's and out's on Fender's use of the skunk stripe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudburst Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) [quote name='pst62' timestamp='1346956677' post='1795384'] The bloke 2nd from bottom on here [url="http://www.fender.com/community/forums/viewtopic.php?p=59965"]http://www.fender.co...pic.php?p=59965[/url] seems to know the in's and out's on Fender's use of the skunk stripe. [/quote] I read it and I'm not buying his story :-) My experience was mostly of instruments from '74 to about '82 and in that period the numerous Fender Ps and Js that I was in direct contact with did not have the stripe if they had a rosewood fretboard. Sid Vicious' mid 70s precision would be an example. CB PS: Just noticed this thread is starting to live up to its title. :-) :-) Edited September 6, 2012 by cloudburst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 In the seventies Fender did produce rosewood board basses both with and without skunk stripes. They used the 03 neck code for instruments with maple boards and rosewood board necks with skunk stripe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Does anyone know where I can buy a skunk stripe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boy Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1347009336' post='1795857'] Does anyone know where I can buy a skunk stripe? [/quote] Are you serious? If you are I'm sure any luthier or guitar builder could supply you with one. Try Mick at zoot guitars I'm sure he could help. he's very approachable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) In the end it really doesn't matter wot Fender did and didn't do regarding skunk stripes, as it has no real bearing on the fact that the bass in my OP is well dodgy, and even if it did have a skunk stripe the fact remains that the headstock is NOT the right shape to be a 90's MIJ Squier, end of. Edited September 7, 2012 by pst62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1347009336' post='1795857'] Does anyone know where I can buy a skunk stripe? [/quote] Iron-on do you? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAHOGANY-VENEER-IRON-ON-EDGING-22MM-WIDE-2-7-METRES-/390440578947"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAHOGANY-VENEER-IRON-ON-EDGING-22MM-WIDE-2-7-METRES-/390440578947[/url] Although you might prefer one of these: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hand-made-Sexy-Skunk-Faux-Fur-Costume-Full-Set-Corset-Skirt-and-Tail-X1106-/330789525249"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hand-made-Sexy-Skunk-Faux-Fur-Costume-Full-Set-Corset-Skirt-and-Tail-X1106-/330789525249[/url] but you'll have to extract the stripe yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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