steve-bbb Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 not being much of an effects user was just wondering is there any unwritten rules about what orders to put stuff in the effects chain ie distortion before chorus/flange or compressors before everything or distortion always at end of chain etceteraa etceteraaa or is it all a matter of personal preference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwells Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 There are some traditional vague rules but I'd just try them all in different places and see what works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Like simwells says, there's no rules. However, Shep's blog might be of interest to you... [url="http://www.sheponbass.co.uk/blog/category/signal-chain-bassics"]http://www.sheponbass.co.uk/blog/category/signal-chain-bassics[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1347977254' post='1807513'] Like simwells says, there's no rules. However, Shep's blog might be of interest to you... [url="http://www.sheponbass.co.uk/blog/category/signal-chain-bassics"]http://www.sheponbas...l-chain-bassics[/url] [/quote] ta never mind the effects im distracted by the music page now Edited September 18, 2012 by steve-bbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1347977254' post='1807513'] Like simwells says, there's no rules. However, Shep's blog might be of interest to you... [url="http://www.sheponbass.co.uk/blog/category/signal-chain-bassics"]http://www.sheponbass.co.uk/blog/category/signal-chain-bassics[/url] [/quote] No rules - chuck them all out. What works for you might not work for others. Effects respond so different in different orders so you need to move them around to find the sounds you love. There are practical restrictions, like old analogue octavers will basically track sod all after modulation or heavy dirt, so you're limited as to where they 'will work'. Failing that go mad! Thanks for sharing the link dude! [quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1347993953' post='1807878'] ta never mind the effects im distracted by the music page now [/quote] Glad you like it!! Shep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='pantherairsoft' timestamp='1347996352' post='1807931'] No rules - chuck them all out. What works for you might not work for others. Effects respond so different in different orders so you need to move them around to find the sounds you love. There are practical restrictions, like old analogue octavers will basically track sod all after modulation or heavy dirt, so you're limited as to where they 'will work'. Failing that go mad! Thanks for sharing the link dude! Glad you like it!! Shep [/quote] It's a brilliant site you've got there & I'm happy to point anyone to it.. On a side note, I've noticed that some effects can respond to what's after them as well as what's before them (Moogers being prime examples). I've noticed that depending what pedals I have turned on, the chorus that's after the LPF can affect the envelope amount. Weird! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1347997074' post='1807956'] It's a brilliant site you've got there & I'm happy to point anyone to it.. On a side note, I've noticed that some effects can respond to what's after them as well as what's before them (Moogers being prime examples). I've noticed that depending what pedals I have turned on, the chorus that's after the LPF can affect the envelope amount. Weird! [/quote] I would of thought that what you are hearing is the envelope being exploited more as the chorus sweeps a higher frequency range. If you have dirt on you'll have more top end harmonics, which will be amplified in the higher frequencies by the chorus. The envelope in the LPF will be heard in those high peaks as the modulation sweeps up. The envelope amount won't be moving, but th sweep of the chorus is making more of that envelope audible. I may be wrong... But that'd be my explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='pantherairsoft' timestamp='1347999873' post='1808019'] I would of thought that what you are hearing is the envelope being exploited more as the chorus sweeps a higher frequency range. If you have dirt on you'll have more top end harmonics, which will be amplified in the higher frequencies by the chorus. The envelope in the LPF will be heard in those high peaks as the modulation sweeps up. The envelope amount won't be moving, but th sweep of the chorus is making more of that envelope audible. I may be wrong... But that'd be my explanation [/quote] You might be right, but it's when I open the envelope follower. If the chorus is on quite strong, it affects the Wah effect. I'll record it sometime & you can see what you think. I've also had the Murf do unusual stuff with the envelope on it when I had things routed differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1347993953' post='1807878'] ta never mind the effects im distracted by the music page now [/quote] Welcome to the world of effects. Your bass will never be the same again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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