Clarky Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 I was reading about SC and his upright playing and came across this article. Turns out that to amplify his upright he uses an Underwood pickup through a full-blown Ampeg SVT rig, which is certainly not a standard choice for the DB community! Sounds like a recipe for feedback to me but who am I to argue with the man! Http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2011/Aug/Stanley_Clarke_A_Bass_Man_and_His_Upright_Desires.aspx?Page=4 Quote
steve Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) I think some of the rockabilly and psychobilly guys use standard bass rigs, with various techniques employed to tame the feedback Edited September 28, 2012 by steve Quote
Clarky Posted September 28, 2012 Author Posted September 28, 2012 True but they are all slapping against the background of loud guitars and drums. Seems like overkill for a jazz/fusion guy! Quote
TheRev Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 I played a stage at Camp Bestival this year where the provided bass amp was an Ampeg SVT with a 4 x 10. Sounded great with no feedback problems. The dude from the John Butler Trio uses a SVT/4*10 rig as well. Admittedly, neither he nor I are as jazz cattish as Stanley Clarke. Quote
BassBod Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 He's never been one to adopt the latest gear - for a long time he was still using the old Fishman BP100 pickup. He's a low action player, and was struggling with this mic/pickup/amp stuff back in the late 60's.....so everything probably still feels like an improvement! Quote
fatback Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) Interesting. I always wondered what a tube pre amp would sound like, but I've been to lazy to try it. Anyone use one regularly? Edited September 28, 2012 by fatback Quote
bremen Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 Fatback's sig: [Quote] Czech double bass (40-something, curvy and called erm... Nigella ) [/quote] I'm going to have to christen my tall skinny black EUB 'Grace' Quote
fatback Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 [quote name='bremen' timestamp='1348834521' post='1818847'] Fatback's sig: I'm going to have to christen my tall skinny black EUB 'Grace' [/quote] Quote
Bilbo Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 I remember erading a thing a thousand years ago when Clarke discussed hus thenrig. He said he had this major rig with crossovers and all sorts of bells and whistles but that, one day, he realised that no-one had ever actually complimented him on his sound. SO he simplified it a lot (can'r actually remember what to, I am afraid). I play mine through my Eden Metro and have no feedback probs (includes a Fishman Plat Pro). Quote
steve-soar Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 I remember seeing him on telly in the early 80's and he had this plexi-glass sphere covered in small speakers? Quote
steve Posted September 30, 2012 Posted September 30, 2012 [quote name='Clarky' timestamp='1348818722' post='1818558'] True but they are all slapping against the background of loud guitars and drums. Seems like overkill for a jazz/fusion guy! [/quote] fair point [quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1348947574' post='1820101'] I remember seeing him on telly in the early 80's and he had this plexi-glass sphere covered in small speakers? [/quote] i definately need to see pics of that Quote
Bassworm Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 A couple of years ago at the Womad festival, I was blown away by Soil+Pimp Sessions (Hi-energy Japanese jazz band) whose bassist Akita Goldman was playing his DB through two SVT rigs. As you can imagine, the sound was immense. And still recognisably a double bass sound. Quote
BassBod Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 [attachment=121451:stanleyk4uo.jpg] Try this - I'm guessing this was mid 70's Stanley gear. I think the multiple tiny speaker thing was copied/borrowed from the Alembic Wall of Sound PA. Quote
bassace Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) A lot of the 'big stage' guys seem to use SVTs. Mark Knopfler's URB man uses twins. Not too sure where this finishes and FOH begins. Edited October 18, 2012 by bassace Quote
mtroun Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 I believe Mark Knopfler's URB man is Dudley Phillips, a very nice guy and terrific player! I used to have lessons with him at the Welsh College. I've played double bass through an SVT and 810 and quite liked the sound, very rich and smooth down to the low end. I guess the main reason double bass players aren't often seen with stacks of speakers is the overkill factor on most gigs. Quote
chris_b Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 He's probably using that traditional feed back killing technology - the master volume control. Quote
bassace Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 [quote name='mtroun' timestamp='1352629373' post='1865236'] I believe Mark Knopfler's URB man is Dudley Phillips, a very nice guy and terrific player! I used to have lessons with him at the Welsh College. I've played double bass through an SVT and 810 and quite liked the sound, very rich and smooth down to the low end. I guess the main reason double bass players aren't often seen with stacks of speakers is the overkill factor on most gigs. [/quote] Glenn Worf is touring with him at the moment. Quote
Doddy Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 [quote name='Clarky' timestamp='1348818722' post='1818558'] True but they are all slapping against the background of loud guitars and drums. Seems like overkill for a jazz/fusion guy! [/quote] Maybe...but by their own admission,Return to Forever are a loud band. Quote
MB1 Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 ['BassBod' [attachment=121451:stanleyk4uo.jpg] Try this - I'm guessing this was mid 70's Stanley gear. I think the multiple tiny speaker thing was copied/borrowed from the Alembic Wall of Sound PA. MB1. Indeed Remember seeing this Globe setup, looked very sci fi ! Lee Rocker (Stray Cats) had 2 Ampeg SVT 810 rigs on stage...No Feedback! Quote
BetaFunk Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 I saw Stanley Clarke and Miroslav Vitous duo live in the 80s. Unfortunately i was so mesmerised that i didn't notice what equipment they were using. Quote
molan Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Saw a gig at the Festival Hall tonight with a bassist switching between DB and a Fender P (looked like a Pino) all evening. Both basses went through one rig with what seemed to be a simple A/B pedal. The rig was an SVT Classic into an 8x10 (laying on its side). Big suspended wooden stage and not a hint of feedback all evening Quote
iiipopes Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1352633729' post='1865304'] He's probably using that traditional feed back killing technology - the master volume control. [/quote] SVT's don't have a "master volume." They are the master at volume. Quote
Happy Jack Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 [quote name='BassBod' timestamp='1350568066' post='1840618'] [attachment=121451:stanleyk4uo.jpg] Try this - I'm guessing this was mid 70's Stanley gear. I think the multiple tiny speaker thing was copied/borrowed from the Alembic Wall of Sound PA. [/quote] Wall Of Sound? [IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Just%20Stuff/Music%20and%20Musicians/WallOfSoundVocals.jpg[/IMG] Naaaaah. I reckon it's based on this: [IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Just%20Stuff/Music%20and%20Musicians/BigAmplifier.jpg[/IMG] Quote
Conan Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1348946105' post='1820077'] I remember reading a thing a thousand years ago when Clarke discussed hus thenrig.[/quote] Cool! I've been a fan of Hus Thenrig's for a long time - good to hear that Stan is a fan too.... Not enough about Norwegian bass players on here! Quote
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