Underrated Bass players

[sblueplanet]

I would say the late Mick Karn who played with Japan. A great and unusual fretless player.
Also, Robert Bell of The Blue Nile, a lefty like me.
Derek Forbes, ex Simple Minds recorded some great baselines.
Finally, because he's not technically a bassist, but how about Ray Manzarek of The Doors who played
all those fantastic keyboard basslines.

[4 Strings]

[quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1363097457' post='2008388'] Anybody mentioned Overend Watts yet ? Anyone with the bottle to go on dressed like that has to be good, its not [i]All [/i]about technique is it ? Showmanship has to be taken into account surely. [/quote]

Wow, had to google him to remind myself who he was! Of course, one of my school days heroes! No idea why I liked Mott so much, still not that keen on the music, but I used to love it when they came on ToTP etc. Goodness, Overend Watts, takes me back!

[BILL POSTERS]

[quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1363194707' post='2009593']
Wow, had to google him to remind myself who he was! Of course, one of my school days heroes! No idea why I liked Mott so much, still not that keen on the music, but I used to love it when they came on ToTP etc. Goodness, Overend Watts, takes me back!
[/quote]

You didnt see the BBC4 documentary about MTH then ? Worth a look, still on sky catchup or iPlayer or whatever its called.

He came from Birmingham as well, which, in itself makes him a Bass Hero surely...

Edited March 13, 2013 by BILL POSTERS

[Japhet]

Haven't read the entire thread so apologies if already mentioned;

Oteil Burbidge, Lee Sklar, Phil Lynott, Tyrone Porter.
Trevor Bolder with his Bowie stuff inspired me to take up the bass.

[Japhet]

Anyone mentioned Jimmy Dewar (RIP) from Robin Trower's band?

[alstocko]

Derrick Hodge doesn't get a huge mention on here but his playing with Glasper and Parlato is some of the best lines ever IMO

[Roland Rock]

I recently bought UB40's 'Signing Off' album, and was hugely impressed (having grown up thinking they were just a mediocre reggae/pop covers band)
Earl Falconer is hugely underrated imo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PpNlM9eF5hA

[Cosmo Valdemar]

[quote name='clarkpegasus4001' timestamp='1363036135' post='2007484']
A friend of mine, he used my Rickenbacker bass on one of his albums. (Argus Through The Looking Glass) - Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash.
[/quote]

I saw them a few weeks ago, that album was for sale... Wish I'd bought a copy now, could have got it signed! I'm intrigued to hear Argus played on a Rick...

[clarkpegasus4001]

[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1363352991' post='2011651']
I saw them a few weeks ago, that album was for sale... Wish I'd bought a copy now, could have got it signed! I'm intrigued to hear Argus played on a Rick...
[/quote]

Well when he rang me to ask to borrow my bass, he said he wanted to "create the same kind of sound as he got on Argus" so I assumed he meant he played a Rick on that album? His own Rick was trashed on an aircraft during a tour. He has a black 4000 model which he has had converted to a 4001 (extra pick -up added etc....), but he likes the sound and feel of my bass so he used it for the album, hence the thanks to Tony Clark on the sleeve notes. The album is ok, the production could have been a bit better T.B.H.

[Baxter]

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1317287604' post='1388963']
Joe Osborne

Here are a few of the tracks he was on that some of you may have heard once or twice....

Arranged By Year - Artist - Title - US Chart Position

1961 - Rick Nelson - Travelin’ Man - 1
1965 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - This Diamond Ring - 1
1965 - Barry Maguire - Eve Of Destruction - 1
1966 - Mamas & Papas - Monday Monday - 1
1966 - Johnny Rivers - Poor Side Of Town - 1
1967 - Association - Windy - 1
1969 - Fifth Dimension - Wedding Bell Blues - 1
1969 - Tommy Roe - Dizzy - 1
1970 - Carpenters - Close To You - 1
1970 - Neil Diamond - Cracklin’ Rose - 1
1970 - Partridge Family - I Think I Love You - 1
1970 - Simon And Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water - 1
1972 - Helen Reddy - I Am Woman - 1
1973 - Carpenters - Top Of The World - 1
1973 - Helen Reddy - Delta Dawn – 1
1974 - Carpenters - Please Mr. Postman – 1

1964 - Johnny Rivers - Memphis - 2
1965 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Count Me In - 2
1965 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Save Your Heart For Me - 2
1967 - Mamas & Papas - Dedicated To The One I Love - 2
1968 - Association - Never My Love - 2
1968 - Richard Harris - Macarthur Park - 2
1970 - Carpenters - Superstar - 2
1970 - Carpenters - We’ve Only Just Begun - 2
1970 - Fifth Dimension - One Less Bell To Answer - 2
1971 - Carpenters - Rainy Days And Mondays - 2
1972 - Carpenters - Hurting Each Other - 2
1973 - Carpenters - Yesterday Once More - 2
1976 - England Dan & John Ford Coley - I’d Really Love To See You Tonight – 2

1966 - Johnny Rivers - Secret Agent Man - 3
1967 - Johnny Rivers - Baby I Need Your Lovin’ - 3
1968 - Fifth Dimension - Stone Soul Picnic - 3
1968 - Monkees - Valleri - 3
1969 - Bobby Sherman - Little Women - 3
1971 - Carpenters - For All We Know - 3
1973 - Carpenters - Sing - 3
1973 - Helen Reddy - Leave Me Alone – 3

1965 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Everybody Loves A Clown - 4
1966 - Mamas & Papas - California Dreamin’ - 4
1967 - Scott Mackenzie - San Francisco - 4
1974 - America - Tin Man - 4
1975 - Carpenters - Only Yesterday – 4

1962 - Rick Nelson - Teenage Idol - 5
1962 - Rick Nelson – Young World - 5
1966 - Mamas & Papas - Words Of Love - 5
1967 - Mamas & Papas – Creeque Alley - 5
1968 - Grass Roots - Midnight Confession - 5
1968 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Just Dropped In - 5
1970 - Bobby Sherman - Julie - Do You Love Me - 5
1974 - Neil Diamond - Longfellow Serenade - 5
1975 - America - Lonely People - 5
1977 – Kenny Rogers - Lucille – 5

1962 - Rick Nelson - It’s Up To You - 6
1964 - Rick Nelson – For You - 6
1966 - Mamas & Papas - I Saw Her Again - 6
1966 - Tommy Roe - Hurray For Hazel - 6
1969 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Ruby - 6
1969 - Neil Diamond - Holly Holy - 6
1970 - Barbra Streisand - Stoney End - 6
1972 - Johnny Rivers - Rockin’ Pneumonia - 6
1971 - Partridge Family - Doesn’t Somebody Want To Be Wanted – 6

1965 - Johnny Rivers - Seventh Son - 7
1967 - Fifth Dimension - Up Up And Away - 7
1969 - Simon & Garfunkel - The Boxer - 7
1971 - Tommy Roe - Stagger Lee - 7
1972 - Carpenters - Goodbye To Love – 7

1966 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Green Grass - 8
1968 - Boyce & Hart - I Wonder What She’s Doin’ Tonight - 8
1969 - Tommy Roe - Jam Up - Jelly Tight - 8
1972 - America - Ventura Highway - 8
1972 - Fifth Dimension - Didn’t Get To Sleep At All - 8
1975 - Helen Reddy - No Way To Treat A Lady – 8

1961 - Rick Nelson - Hello Mary Lou - 9
1964 - Johnny Rivers - Mountain Of Love - 9
1967 - Spanky & Our Gang - Sunday Will Never Be The Same - 9
1969 - Bobby Sherman - La La La - 9
1970 - Bobby Sherman - Easy Come Easy Go - 9
1971 - Grass Roots - Sooner Or Later - 9
1971 - Partridge Family - I’ll Meet You Halfway - 9
1973 - Art Garfunkel - All I Know - 9
1973 - B.W. Stevenson - My Maria - 9
1974 - Helen Reddy - You And Me Against The World - 9
1975 - Austin Roberts - Rocky - 9
1978 - England Dan & John Ford Coley - We’ll Never Have To Say Goodbye Again - 9
1982 - Sylvia - Nobody – 9

1967 - Johnny Rivers - Tracks Of My Tears - 10
1968 - Association – Everything That Touches You - 10
1970 - Mark Lindsay - Arizona - 10
1972 - Fifth Dimension - If I Could Reach You - 10
1976 - England Dan & John Ford Coley - Nights Are Forever – 10

1961 - Rick Nelson - A Wonder Like You - 11
1970 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Somethin’s Burnin’ - 11
1974 - Carpenters - I Won’t Last A Day Without You - 11

1963 - Rick Nelson - Fools Rush In - 12
1964 - Johnny Rivers - Maybelle - 12
1968 - Cass Elliott - Dream A Little Dream - 12
1971 – Fifth Dimension - Never My Love - 12
1972 - Carpenters - It’s Going To Take Some Time - 12
1972 - Austin Roberts - Something’s Wrong With Me - 12
1973 - Helen Reddy - Peaceful - 12
1976 - Carpenters - There’s A Kind Of Hush – 12

1966 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - My Heart Symphony - 13
1968 - Fifth Dimension - Sweet Blindness - 13
1971 - Helen Reddy - I Don’t Know How To Love Him - 13
1972 - Partridge Family - I Woke Up In Love This Morning - 13

1967 - Johnny Rivers - Summer Rain - 14

1966 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Paint Me A Picture - 15
1969 - Grass Roots - I’d Wait A Million Years - 15
1971 - Grass Roots - Temptation Eyes - 15
1974 - Helen Reddy - Keep On Singing – 15

1961 - Rick Nelson – Ever Lovin’ - 16
1967 - Fifth Dimension - Go Where You Wanna Go - L 6
1971 - Grass Roots - Two Divided By Love - 16
1971 - Bobby Sherman - Cry Like A Baby - 16
1981 - Carpenters - Touch Me When We’re Dancin’ – 16

1968 - Spanky & Our Gang - Like To Get To Know You - 17
1970 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Tell It All Brother - 17
1975 - Carpenters - Solitaire – 17

1976 - Art Garfunkel - I Only Have Eyes For You – 18

1966 - Johnny Rivers - Muddy Water - 19
1968 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Sealed With A Kiss - 19
1969 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - But You Know I Love You - 19
1970 - Glen Campbell - Honey Come Back - 19
1971 - Fifth Dimension - Love Lines Angels & Rhymes - 19
1976 - Helen Reddy - Somewhere In The Night - 19
1982 - Michael Murphy - What’s Forever For – 19

1965 - Johnny Rivers - Midnight Special - 20
1967 - Mamas & Papas – Twelve Thirty - 20
1969 - Fifth Dimension - Workin’ On A Groovy Thing - 20
1970 - Michael Parks - Long Lonesome Highway - 20
1972 - Partridge Family - It’s One Of Those Nights - 20
1977 - Olivia Newton John - Sam – 20

1967 – Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Where Will Words Come From - 21
1970 - Fifth Dimension - Blowing Away - 21
1977 – England Dan & John Ford Coley - It’s Sad To Belong – 21

1975 - Helen Reddy - Emotion – 22

1967 - Grass Roots - Things I Should Have Said - 23
1967 - Tommy Roe - It’s Now Winter’s Day - 23
1969 - Glen Campbell - Try A Little Kindness - 23
1977 - England Dan & John Ford Coley - Gone Too Far - 23

1966 - Mamas & Papas - Look Through My Window - 24
1967 - Scott Mackenzie - Like An Old Time Movie - 24
1969 - Grass Roots – Heaven Knows - 24
1970 - Fifth Dimension - Puppet Man - 24
1970 - Bobby Sherman - Hey Mr. Sun – 24

1963 - Rick Nelson - String Along - 25
1969 - Fifth Dimension - California Soul - 25
1970 - Mark Lindsay - Silver Bird – 25

1976 - Carpenters - I Need To Be In Love - 26
1964 - Rick Nelson - The Very Thought Of You - 26
1965 - Johnny Rivers - Where Have All The Flowers Gone - 26
1967 - Glen Campbell - By The Time I Get To Phoenix - 26
1967 - Mamas & Papas - Glad To Be Unhappy - 26
1969 - Glen Campbell - Where’s The Playground Suzie - 26
1970 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Reuben James - 26

1968 - Boyce & Hart - Alice Long - 27
1970 - Glen Campbell - All I Have To Do Is Dream - 27
1970 - Fifth Dimension - Save The Country – 27

1966 - Grass Roots - Where Were You When I Needed You - 28
1969 - Grass Roots - Bella Linda - 28
1972 - Partridge Family - Breaking Up Is Hard To Do – 28

1968 - Fifth Dimension - Carpet Man - 29
1969 - Tommy Roe - Heather Honey - 29
1971 - Bobby Sherman - The Drum – 29

1968 - Spanky & Our Gang - Sunday Morning - 30
1969 - Cass Elliott - It’s Getting Better – 30

1967 - Spanky & Our Gang – Makin’ Every Minute Count - 31
1969 - Grass Roots - The River Is Wide - 31
1971 - Glen Campbell - Dream Baby - 31
1974 - Albert Hammond - I’m A Train – 31

1970 - John Philips - Mississippi - 32
1973 - Fifth Dimension – Living Together, Growing Together - 32
1977 - Carpenters - Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft – 32

1966 - Johnny Rivers - Under Your Spell Again - 33
1970 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Heed The Call - 33
1976 - Olivia Newton John - Don’t Stop Believin’ – 33

1967 - Fifth Dimension - Paper Cup - 34
1972 - Grass Roots - Glory Bound - 34
1973 - Neil Diamond - Be - 34
1974 - Art Garfunkel - Second Avenue – 34

1969 - Glen Campbell – True Grit - 35
1970 - Grass Roots - Baby Hold On - 35
1973 - America - Don’t Cross River - 35
1975 - Helen Reddy - Bluebird - 35
1977 - Carpenters - All You Can Get From Love – 35

1968 - Glen Campbell - I Want To Live - 36
1969 - Glen Campbell - Let It Be Me - 36
1969 - Cass Elliott - Make Your Own Kind Of Music – 36

1972 - Fifth Dimension - Together Let’s Find Love – 37

1974 - Art Garfunkel - I Shall Sing - 38
1975 - Johnny Rivers - Blue Suede Shoes – 38

1967 - Boyce & Hart - Out And About - 39
1968 - Association - Time For Lovin’ - 39
1968 - Glen Campbell - Gentle On My Mind - 39
1972 - Grass Roots – The Runaway - 39
1973 - Partridge Family - Look Through The Eyes Of Love – 39

1966 - The Turtles - You Baby - 40


I think its fair to say he is something of an unsung hero of bass....
[/quote]

good grief

[PeterSchofield]

I'd certainly regard Ed Nash as an underrated bassist, he's in the band Bombay Bicycle Club and the majority of his work is what in my opinion makes the band what they are now. Strongly recommend checking them out.
Peter

[Stance]

this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKBgbbFaF2U
old school sound all the way!

[ebenezer]

well back in the day when petrol was cheap, back was ache free and the birds
sang more .....a certain Bernard Edwards and Norman Watt-Roy did it for me

slick funky lines meets.....get the .......job done

Norman still churning it out

loads of great players passed and present.

[Kraken]

I would like to submit the following three

Jeremy Cunningham
Steve Vantsis
Nick Beggs

[stoker]

Kai Stephens from Hard Fi is worth listening to.

[Bassection]

Oh! I totally missed one from my last post..
This guy:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ouQRALqFoU[/media]

His runs between 2:35 - 3:40 are literally orgasmic. He's the son of well-known comedian Hamada Masatoshi.
I only recently realised who's son he was; certainly shocked me.

Edited April 21, 2013 by Bassection

[yepmop]

[color=#000000]Jon Camp - Renaissance[/color]
[color=#000000]Gary Thain - Uriah Heep[/color]
[color="#000000"]Bert[/color][color=#000000] Ruiter - Focus[/color]
[color=#000000]Andy Fraser - Free[/color]

[Thunderbird]

For me I think it has to be.

James Lomenzo - White lion/Megadeth

Tom araya - Slayer

Gene simmons - Kiss

[Stance]

[quote name='Thunderbird' timestamp='1372565038' post='2127216']


James Lomenzo - White lion/Megadeth


[/quote]

The work he did in Zakk Wylde´s Pride in Glory (1994) is simply superb IMHO

[KingPrawn]

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1317224441' post='1388348']
Alan Lancaster. A tiny little 'root-driver' with a Mustang hung off him.
[/quote]

spot on

[timmo]

I don`t know if he is a great bass player, but Leo Lyons enthusiasm is something I like. The clip brightens up around 20 seconds

[media]http://youtu.be/uxQ9JUhyZGs[/media]

Edited July 2, 2013 by timmo

[Bassmonkey]

What about Rancid's Matt Freeman? Agree too with Bow Wow Wow's Leigh Gorman, saw them again last year and he is an excellent player

[Stance]

Matt Freeman´s playing is really nice!

I wish all those players out there that think that playing bass with a pick is for loosers, to check this guy out!

[the_skezz]

[quote name='Stance' timestamp='1364439262' post='2026605']
this guy
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKBgbbFaF2U[/media]
old school sound all the way!
[/quote]

YES YES YES. One of my favourite songs and bass intros ever.

[Samashton12]

Jared Followill - Kings of Leon