Raggy Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 [url="http://www.speakerbuilder.co.uk/"][color="#22229c"]http://www.speakerbuilder.co.uk/[/color][/url] Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Me thinks this might go down quite well over here... Quote
funky8884 Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Great stuff !! Does anyone know these guys ? '' Speaker Builder has been set up by two people - one a keen DIYer, the other a recognised UK builder of bass and guitar cabinets '' Quote
PURPOLARIS Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 The prices seem very competitive. Obviously it still needs the hardware but it means that each cab can be unique in its finish. Add your drivers of choice and you could have a very good original cab for a good price. Quote
TPJ Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 [quote name='PURPOLARIS' timestamp='1349554813' post='1827786'] Add your drivers of choice ... [/quote] Nope. You need to use the drivers explicitly stated or the cab would sound it's best. The fEarful cabs were designed around a specific set of drivers. Quote
verb Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 [quote name='funky8884' timestamp='1349554012' post='1827772'] Great stuff !! Does anyone know these guys ? '' Speaker Builder has been set up by two people - one a keen DIYer, the other a recognised UK builder of bass and guitar cabinets '' [/quote] http://basschat.co.uk/topic/180193-fearful-1261-build/page__p__1711123#entry1711123 Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Well, originally I wasn't going to try this route, but now I've read into it a little more, I might be interested in one of these. Especially in a custom finish. Quote
Raggy Posted October 6, 2012 Author Posted October 6, 2012 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1349550935' post='1827717'] Me thinks this might go down quite well over here... [/quote] Am sure it will. Look how popular Barefaced is. Its for a reason A properly engineered bass cab, good weight and decent components. Quote
PURPOLARIS Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 [quote name='TPJ' timestamp='1349555420' post='1827793'] Nope. You need to use the drivers explicitly stated or the cab would sound it's best. The fEarful cabs were designed around a specific set of drivers. [/quote] Ok wasn't aware of that, I thought you could just slot in drivers that would be suited to the volume of the cab. Quote
funky8884 Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 [quote name='verb' timestamp='1349556161' post='1827801'] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/180193-fearful-1261-build/page__p__1711123#entry1711123"]http://basschat.co.u...23#entry1711123[/url] [/quote] Thanks Quote
Cosmo Valdemar Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 I couldn't see the prices for the finished cabs... Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1349699331' post='1829202'] I couldn't see the prices for the finished cabs... [/quote] Me neither. I've sent an email. Quote
JTUK Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Need to see pics as I think there are cab builders and cab builders.... I understand the finish might be a variable but it would still help to see a finished effort. IMO. Quote
stevie Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 [quote name='PURPOLARIS' timestamp='1349557346' post='1827814'] Ok wasn't aware of that, I thought you could just slot in drivers that would be suited to the volume of the cab. [/quote] If you use similar drivers to the ones specified, you could, although the driver complement in these is better than 95% of bass cabs on the market. You could fit a cheaper speaker than the Eminence 12/15LF - or a better one - but those Eminence drivers are good value (for neos) and perform well. It's a shame they don't use 3/4" birch ply and that the crossover is a bit of a bodge. IMO of course. Quote
TPJ Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1349703757' post='1829292'] It's a shame they don't use 3/4" birch ply[/quote] why? It looks as if the cabs have been designed around strong internal bracing to reduce cab resonance and weight instead of using heavy ply. [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1349703757' post='1829292'] ...and that the crossover is a bit of a bodge. IMO of course. [/quote] again, why? This fearful stuff was run through the mill with testing and people experimenting will xovers. It looks as if they arrived at a pretty well suited and varied set of xovers to use. Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Personally for me, the idea of a well designed 15 with 6 and Tweeter gives you everything you'd need, plus I'm guessing you can have customised tolex/corners/front cloth etc, which appeals to me. Quote
paulflan0151 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Im really interested in this, looking for a new cab myself. Only problem is I know nothing about cabs, amps, speakers, crossovers, tweeters etc! I'll have to keep a eye on this thread. It would be really cool to glue a high grade veneer to the sides (if possable). That would look the business! Quote
stevie Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) [quote name='TPJ' timestamp='1349707158' post='1829367'] why? It looks as if the cabs have been designed around strong internal bracing to reduce cab resonance and weight instead of using heavy ply. again, why? This fearful stuff was run through the mill with testing and people experimenting will xovers. It looks as if they arrived at a pretty well suited and varied set of xovers to use. [/quote] Because 18mm ply has proven itself over the years to be the ideal material for bass cabinets. It's a balancing act. Thicker is better, but not that much better. Thinner wood and lightweight woods - even plastic - are OK for midrange, but going down to 12mm ply is a compromise for bass. Plenty of people are prepared to make that compromise because it gives them a lighter cabinet. Which is fair enough if portability is a priority. All cabinets should be properly braced. Testing and experimenting is no substitute for measuring. You have to be able to carry out measurements to design a crossover properly and I don't think anyone did that. Anything else is guesswork. Edited October 8, 2012 by stevie Quote
bremen Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 surely rigidity is the issue, and well braced 12mm ply is better than an average 18mm cab...? Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 All of these designs are Fearful spec so therefore fully tested...or so I'm told. Quote
stevie Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Given the choice, a well-braced 18mm cab is better than a well-braced 12mm cab, which is better than a well-braced 6mm cab. You really have to compare like with like. Why compromise if you don't have to? I'm not saying a well-braced 12mm cab is necessarily awful, but if I were to build a Fearful for myself, I'd use 18mm birch - that was basically my point earlier. Quote
Mr. Foxen Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Well braced means braced appropriate to the material though. The trade off is weight and labour, you design in sufficient bracing, and being DIY cabs, the labour is free, so its sensible to go for the more bracing and lighter material. Quote
stevie Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) You then end up with a cab made out of 6mm balsa wood. The sensible thing is to go for the most effective solution for you. Edited October 8, 2012 by stevie Quote
Mr. Foxen Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 See the bracing would weight more that the skin to be appropriate to that. You seem to be ignoring the whole making it right thing. Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 I've had a quote on a custom 15/6 with tweeter, in tolex with metal corners...not bad...considering the high end drivers used. My only worry is that these might be too large in the low end for my tastes....but I would like to try one asap. Quote
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