cloudburst Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='BassPimp66' timestamp='1350284955' post='1836667'] What about contacting eBay about the counterfeit? [/quote] Done. CB Quote
MB1 Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 MB1. Blimey! Look Zippy!... its a Musicman Bungle! ...Shut up George! Quote
alyctes Posted October 15, 2012 Author Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1350242400' post='1836302'] BTW it's a Chinese knock off and to be fair he never says it's an MM [/quote] ... which is what made me suspicious in the first place. Quote
BassPimp66 Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1350298145' post='1836867'] Done. CB [/quote] The bass is still listed... I've also dropped them a note. Quote
Macko1968 Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1350242400' post='1836302'] BTW it's a Chinese knock off and to be fair he never says it's an MM [/quote] Which will be his defence if he gets rumbled. Low life who knows he's got a fake & is hoping to cash in on someone's ignorance. Quote
yorks5stringer Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 [quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1350275837' post='1836635'] Okay - you forced me into it - it's a Wrongo :-) On a more serious note. These aren't copies. Copies display the legitimate manufacturer on the headstock. These are illegal fakes. Given Chinese efficiency and the fact that they aren't going to tool up just to turn out a small number, you have to wonder just how many of these are in circulation. And how many budding players are being hindered or put off. We're all quick (and right) to get uptight about MD Phillips' misadventures. This is just as bad in my book. [b]Doubly bad, in fact, as the potential is there for MDP to start importing these and then doing a "professional" setup on them[/b]. CB [/quote] Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Wow, it's up to £435... Someone's going to get ripped off I think he's a scammer, I've just looked at the questions and a couple stuck out as suspicious Q: would you consider a buy it now on this? 15-Oct-12 A: I would happily consider any offers, but have no idea what the guitar is worth because I haven't seen another one online. So he didn't think to look at the headstock and type "Music Man" or "Bongo" and "Bass" into Google? Q: hi can i ask why you are selling this unused. also do you have a buy it now in mind? thanks 15-Oct-12 A: I am selling this unused because I don't play bass. It was bought as a birthday present because I expressed a wish to play bass and was a Metallica fan who raved about their use of 5 string. I don't have an amp and my cheapo tuner only does 4 strings. A tuner that only does 4 strings... Right And of course it's impossible to tune any other way... And a bass, and tuner, but no amp or anything else to plug it into? Again i find that hard to believe. I'm going to report this one to eBay as well as I'd hate for someone to get screwed. Quote
jaybass 70 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYj5o4kQsXs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYj5o4kQsXs[/url] Quote
cloudburst Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Chrismuzz - I've reported it to eBay twice now. And they seem to have done absolutely nothing about it. Please do report it as well. It's possible that eBay's systems work on the principle that they don't listen to one person, but is a number of people point to a counterfeit, then it triggers an alert to take action. If any of the rest of you are reading this - it would help to add to the eBay reports. CB PS: Jaybass70 - what was the message with the advert? Not sure what you were getting at? Edited October 23, 2012 by cloudburst Quote
jaybass 70 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 "PS: Jaybass70 - what was the message with the advert? Not sure what you were getting at?" Nothing earth shatteringly profound , just a bit of retro advert fun with bongo in it Quote
BassPimp66 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 [quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1350974615' post='1845628'] Chrismuzz - I've reported it to eBay twice now. And they seem to have done absolutely nothing about it. Please do report it as well. [/quote] I have reported the counterfeit several times to eBay and to MusicMan as well. Nothing from eBay... Quote
martfitz Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 I've reported it as well on Sunday, I doubt Ebay give a damn, as techincally it's not listed as a Bongo, but the photos would mislead a bidder who doesn't know any better that it is one. There's so many things wrong with it. As the saying goes 'If something seems too good to be true then it probably is'. The scumbag selling it and Ebay are the winners, I pity the poor person who ends up buying it. Quote
neepheid Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 eBay don't care, this much we know, I have pretty much given up reporting fakes (although I did this one). Might get some attack drones deployed from EBMM though. eBay might listen to them. Quote
Mr. Foxen Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1350993141' post='1845908'] Might get some attack drones deployed from EBMM though. [/quote] *Roasted attack drones. Quote
paul_5 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 just received a mail from EB UK and they have asked the seller to make it clear that it's a copy. We shall see... Quote
ash Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Report it using the name Mr Hall and see what happens then Quote
bremen Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 [quote name='ash' timestamp='1351000802' post='1846038'] Report it using the name Mr Hall and see what happens then [/quote] Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 [color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif, Verdana][size=3]On 23-Oct-12 at 12:12:57 BST, seller added the following information:[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif, Verdana][size=3] [font="Arial"][size="2"]Since listing this item I have recieved lots of comms about it's manufacture. I would like to point out that this appears not to be made by Music Man and I cannot find a relevant serial number on the back of the guitar. However, it does look a terrific piece of kit and will probably need a guitar tech or luthier to set it up properly.[/size][/font][/size][/font][/color] Quote
yorks5stringer Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 [sub]So a private listing and up to £435. These go on trade tang for about £300......hope the highest bidder realises it's a chinese "replica"[/sub] Quote
cloudburst Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 All this talk of replica/copy is annoying and misleading. It's a counterfeit. The none-too-subtle difference is that IT'S ILLEGAL. Do Trading Standards have a whistle-blower link? Or is there a better body to report it (and eBay) to? CB Quote
cloudburst Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Perhaps the best way to handle this is to snipe the bass at the last minute and then take a week or so to decide not to pay, based on the fact that it's not legal? Would that work? CB PS: Sorry to get a bit hyper about this but I do love Bongos and don't want someone to be landed with this pile of scrap. Unless they are a pro guitar bodger of course. Edited October 23, 2012 by cloudburst Quote
BassPimp66 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 It's totally illegal. I am really furious at eBay not caring more about this sort of things. It shows a total lack of support for legit trade. I feel really let down by eBay. Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 [quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1351015822' post='1846295'] Perhaps the best way to handle this is to snipe the bass at the last minute and then take a week or so to decide not to pay, based on the fact that it's not legal? [/quote] Not a bad idea actually! Quote
BassPimp66 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 I have filled an online complaint with the Trading Standard Institute. Feel free to fill one. https://www.brand-i.org/report-a-site/ Quote
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