giblett123 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Morning all, anyone got any thoughts on the Markbass CMD121p combos? I'm after a small lightweight combo, I have been eyeing a promethean but they are getting increasingly difficult to come by, also the Genz shuttle 1x12 but the markbass works out a fair bit cheaper, just curious! I wouldnt br doing any rock gigs etc on it, bits of pits etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Well, my first ever experience with Markbass was with a CMD102p and a 102HF cabinet. It was an insanely loud metal gig,and I had the volume at about 11 o clock on the Master. I'd have had plenty of headroom even without the extension cabinet, which suggests that no matter what genre you're doing, it will be enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTB Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I really like mine. I use it mostly for double bass but it sounds great with bass guitar too, warm and clean. It has been completely reliable through around 150gigs to date. I recently added the matching 1x12 NY cab & wish I'd done this much sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblett123 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Cheers for the info guys, I'm eyeing it up on thomann which is what cheaper than here, I'm assuming that their 230v is th same as ours?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Great amp indeed! I had one for a fair while and I'd be happy to have another one. Thomann.de are brilliant. They've had loads of my business over the years, and never a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 As a recent Markbass convert - Little Mark Tube & 104HR cab - using "only" 300 watts, in a punk band the volume is usually on about 4 out of 11.So Markbass amps are plenty loud enough. I`m sure the 112 will be fine on its own, but as per PTBs post, using an extra cab will add depth to the sound - plus the added height making it easier to hear as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblett123 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Think I'll do it, prob with a ny 12" extension cab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yes, I tried one out a Bass Gear in Twyford a little while ago and it sounded great and is the size of a large box of matches! I know someone who uses it with a Double Bass and he was very happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 This is on the markbass website - I don't know if it has any bearing but thought I should put it up just in case "[u]Markbass amps/combos are manufactured to be sold and used in the country of purchase, and they are factory preset to that country’s voltage."[/u] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) Well providing Thomann come back with an ok that the ones they sell are ok to use in the UK, I`m going to sort one of these and the matching NY121. I`m too rickety to carry around 50lb+ 410s now - even the 104HR is a bit much for me - just taken me a while to realise it. Plus as I love the Markbass/Precision combination so much, this set-up really makes sense. I`ll update the post once they`ve replied. Edited October 17, 2012 by Lozz196 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Lozz, you should have a try on the 2x10 hf, see if it suits you. Still not as light as the NY121 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 There's a new Promethean just launched >> http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_p3110.htm Not quite the same, but close enough for pit work I reckon. The CMD121p LM3 from what I've heard is worth every penny however Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Must admit I`ve looked at a range of options, but as one of my bands has eight members, setting up is more than a tad cramped, so looking for a nice small footprint sized set-up, as well as light weight. Hopefully - as this band has 2 basses, so I don`t have to do it all - I`ll be able to use the combo on it`s own at most of the gigs, as we go FOH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I suppose you could always get a 2nd 121 if you needed to & still have a small footprint with a big sound. There's a few folk on here use the 2x10 traveller, but I don't believe it has the low end of the standard 2x10 (kinda obvious i suppose). So if you don't need the lows, there's a cab that's barely wider than the LMII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The voltage thing is a red herring, even if you got one from the US its possible to reset the voltage internally. The only downer is although in the EU you usually get a 2 year warranty, you have to send the amp back to the seller which can take longer and cost more than from your local friendly MB dealer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblett123 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 Ahhh so if needed I could get a MB dealer to flip the switch for me? although I think (and if I'm wrong I hope someone will tell me) we are now standardised voltage across the EU? Love the look of the new promethean, less power than the last?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='giblett123' timestamp='1350538999' post='1840155'] Love the look of the new promethean, less power than the last?? [/quote] Less watts yes, but 50W more in the combo than last time (old one was 250W because of 8 ohm speaker in the combo, 500W with 4 ohm cab). Edited October 18, 2012 by neepheid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) You won't get a UK dealer to switch the voltage of one you bought in the USA for nowt but there is a sticky somewhere on here or do a google that shows you what to do. Obviously if you buy from the USA you'd invalidate any warranty by doing that yourself so it only works if you source one very cheap from across the pond, maybe second hand? Yes, voltage the same across the EU now give or take a few volts Edited October 18, 2012 by yorks5stringer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1350552269' post='1840315'] Less watts yes, but 50W more in the combo than last time (old one was 250W because of 8 ohm speaker in the combo, 500W with 4 ohm cab). [/quote] I don't think you're right. The old one was a 500w head (so @ 300 - 350w or so at 8Ω). The stats are VERY misleading on the new one as it says it's a 300w combo at 4Ω, yet it has an extension socket that says 8Ω? Just had a quick look on Ibby's web & the manual says that the combo is 150w @ 8Ω. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1350552269' post='1840315'] Less watts yes, but 50W more in the combo than last time (old one was 250W because of 8 ohm speaker in the combo, 500W with 4 ohm cab). [/quote] Nope! The amp has a speaker out (min 8 Ohms) so the internal combo speaker must be a 8ohm one pushing out only 180W(ish) from the amp: It's weaker than it's older brother, has less controls and the head is not detachable on this version. I would still go for a P5110 if i find the need for one (i had one ) cheers edit: xgsjx beat me to it Edited October 18, 2012 by Ghost_Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I bought a LMIII in the States and did the jumper flip. Had the amp for a couple of years after that, was absolutely fine. If you want to know how to do it (and it's easy), PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Thomanns reply is: [i]All electronic items, if not stated else, come with EU standard power supply at 220V / 50 Hz with a two pin connector. You can use this item for the use in the UK:[/i] The link took me to a 2-pin to 3-pin travel plug. So it would appear all will be well with a Markbass amp from Thomann. Which is nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegatward Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 +1 for the markbass 121P combo although mine has the little rocker 500 head in it ++1 for the NY121 extension cab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1350554248' post='1840359'] I don't think you're right. The old one was a 500w head (so @ 300 - 350w or so at 8Ω). The stats are VERY misleading on the new one as it says it's a 300w combo at 4Ω, yet it has an extension socket that says 8Ω? Just had a quick look on Ibby's web & the manual says that the combo is 150w @ 8Ω. [/quote] Isn't the end of the first paragraph rather misleading then? [url="http://www.ibanez.com/Electronics/model-P3110"]http://www.ibanez.co...ics/model-P3110[/url] - states "Plus, the fire-red amp head can be easily detached without any tools" - also it says it is a "300W combo". Thomann claim that the combo is 4ohms and the speaker out is 4ohms also. Surely that's dangerous misadvice if wrong? [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_p3110.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...banez_p3110.htm[/url] So the question is: who's telling porkie pies? Edited October 18, 2012 by neepheid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1350568242' post='1840622'] [url="http://www.ibanez.com/Electronics/model-P3110"]http://www.ibanez.co...ics/model-P3110[/url] - states "Plus, the fire-red amp head can be easily detached without any tools" [/quote] That's written in the first paragraph and that's regarding to the entire Promethean line. My guess is that they haven't updated it for the new line. From the pic i've posted it doesn't show any sign of a detach mechanism on the head without using a screwdriver but that could be implemented on the sides of the amp and i've not noticed it yet! [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1350568242' post='1840622'] Thomann claim that the combo is 4ohms and the speaker out is 4ohms also. Surely that's dangerous misadvice if wrong? [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_p3110.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...banez_p3110.htm[/url] [/quote] Yep, Thomann should have written it in a clearer way, people that are used to handle bass gear will know bwtter but some newbie could be mislead, once again, in the pic i've posted we can clearly read "8 ohm min" on the ext cab output. Time for a topic on this combo perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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