chrismuzz Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) Hey guys, girls Just looking through some pictures of last night's gig, and I noticed that in a few of them my wrist on my fretting hand is very severely bent. It didn't feel uncomfortable at all during or even after we played our two hour long sets, but I was just wondering if it looks alright to you all. Am I more likely to develop problems later on? Should I work on improving it at all? Does it look less cool??? Cheers Edited October 20, 2012 by chrismuzz Quote
RhysP Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Seeing that the picture is a snapshot of less than a second of your gig I wouldn't worry about it if it's not hurting or anything. Quote
risingson Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 I would guess that because you have your bass low-slung and angled upward that this might create a bit of a strain in your left wrist. Purists will probably tell you to correct this but if you're not feeling any pain like Rhys says then I'd just say play. Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 20, 2012 Author Posted October 20, 2012 Cheers dudes Nice to know I should be pretty cool healthwise... But how about the cool factor? Quote
Bassman Sam Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 You might find a more comfortable hand position if you stopped taping your setlist to the ceiling. Quote
Coilte Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 If, as RhysP says that it was just a snapshot, and you dont permanently play with the wrist bent like this, then I'd say you are OK. If however, the bent wrist is more the norm, then IMO it would be prudent to rethink your L/H technique. Sometimes physical injuries take years to manifest themselves, so just because it does not hurt now, does not mean that it is OK. Granted, lots of players get away with playing with a bent wrist, but a lot experience problems. Quote
steve-bbb Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 enquiring minds need to know if your left foot is perched up on a wedgie monitor there!! Quote
BassPimp66 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Looks like an uncomfortable position to me. Especially for your neck. Time to see an ostheopath ! Quote
AntLockyer Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Was thi sjust an excuse to post an awesome picture of yourself Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 20, 2012 Author Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='Bassman Sam' timestamp='1350753037' post='1843126'] You might find a more comfortable hand position if you stopped taping your setlist to the ceiling. [/quote] Hahaha it's up there so i don't slouch! [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1350755239' post='1843176'] If, as RhysP says that it was just a snapshot, and you dont permanently play with the wrist bent like this, then I'd say you are OK. If however, the bent wrist is more the norm, then IMO it would be prudent to rethink your L/H technique. Sometimes physical injuries take years to manifest themselves, so just because it does not hurt now, does not mean that it is OK. Granted, lots of players get away with playing with a bent wrist, but a lot experience problems. [/quote] Interesting. My wrist is like this in probably 20% of the pictures, so I'll think about it. Thanks! [quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1350755572' post='1843187'] enquiring minds need to know if your left foot is perched up on a wedgie monitor there!! [/quote] It's actually one of the subs, it's on the floor in front of the stage but reaches about 8" above the stage, so it's kinda like a little pedestal [quote name='AntLockyer' timestamp='1350757328' post='1843228'] Was thi sjust an excuse to post an awesome picture of yourself [/quote] Haha thanks, I think! I deliberately chose this one because I thought I looked goofy, and that it would prevent questions just like that! Looks like I failed Quote
BassTractor Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Unless you were only joking, to me this seems like a real problem indeed, and you should correct it. Here's some initial help. PM me if you need more. [size=4][b]M A R S H A L L -->[/b][/size] [size=4][b]M A R K B A S S[/b][/size] best, bert Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 20, 2012 Author Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1350764101' post='1843326'] Unless you were only joking, to me this seems like a real problem indeed, and you should correct it. Here's some initial help. PM me if you need more. [/quote] Sorry mate not actually sure what you meant by this post! Quote
BassTractor Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1350765557' post='1843351'] Sorry mate not actually sure what you meant by this post![/quote] There are some grave mistakes on yer T-shirt, spellingwise or otherwise: [quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1350764101' post='1843326'] [size=4][b]M A R S H A L L -->[/b][/size] [size=4][b]M A R K B A S S[/b][/size] [/quote] Quote
Coilte Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 You should check out this clip : [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRkSsapYYsA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRkSsapYYsA[/url] Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 20, 2012 Author Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1350767351' post='1843376'] There are some grave mistakes on yer T-shirt, spellingwise or otherwise: [/quote] Oh i gotcha haha Nah I do have an awesome Marshall pedal on my board, and a Marshall practice amp! So as well as paying respect to the grandaddy of rock amplification, I'm also promoting a brand I actively use, and hopefully am spelling correctly Quote
4 Strings Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 I've been thinking about this recently, just as water finds the easiest route I find myself settling to the most comfortable position during long playing sessions, and this tips my bass up at the neck. I find lower body end reduces the similar wrist angle hanging over the top of the body and raising the neck end straightens my wrist there too. So, imo, your bass position is fine. However at least for the moment the pic was taken, your left elbow is thrust forward unnecessarily. From the rest of your positioning it looks like your going through a particularly challenging section. I'd try to monitor yourself with this in mind and if this is regular for you, try to draw your elbow back to straighten your wrist. In the end, your body is the best sign if anything is going wrong and you'll get plenty of warning of aches and pains before you cause any damage. Doesn't sound like you have much to worry about. Yep, its a great pic! Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 Just found this one... My hand is a bit of a camera whore it seems.. Much better form here! Quote
Ed_S Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 You look a bit like you're expecting the width of a 5 or 6 string neck in your hand and only finding a 4. Considering you have a 5 and a 6 in your sig, is it possible that it's a wrist position you've developed that way? Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Ed_S' timestamp='1350797935' post='1843537'] You look a bit like you're expecting the width of a 5 or 6 string neck in your hand and only finding a 4. Considering you have a 5 and a 6 in your sig, is it possible that it's a wrist position you've developed that way? [/quote] Good spot dude! Yes, my main bass is a 6 and all of my home practicing is done on it Quote
essexbasscat Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 You are wise to consider your body while playing, after all, there's no shortage of threads around here started by people with carpal tunnel, locked shoulders etc. Our very own Endorka has written a blog on the very topic. If you wish to gain better alignment of the wrist, may I suggest you have your bass higher ? that would place your elbow at a lower location relative to the neck, which will allow your wrist to be straighter. Good luck with it whatever you do Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='essexbasscat' timestamp='1350812698' post='1843632'] You are wise to consider your body while playing, after all, there's no shortage of threads around here started by people with carpal tunnel, locked shoulders etc. Our very own Endorka has written a blog on the very topic. If you wish to gain better alignment of the wrist, may I suggest you have your bass higher ? that would place your elbow at a lower location relative to the neck, which will allow your wrist to be straighter. Good luck with it whatever you do [/quote] Thanks man, I've been considering strap height for a while but have actually been lowering it to prevent shoulder and right hand problems! Looks like it's gonna be a trial and error, finding the balance type job... again! Of all the things to get hung up about and with me it's bloody strap height Quote
Coilte Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1350813546' post='1843639'] Of all the things to get hung up about and with me it's bloody strap height [/quote] Yes, it may seem like a trivial thing to be concerned about, but over the long term it can be of the utmost importance. It is true, that wearing the bass too high effects the R/H and too low, the L/H. The ideal compromise is to have the main body of the bass at about belt buckle height. Quote
BassTractor Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1350814652' post='1843653'] The ideal compromise is to have the main body of the bass at about belt buckle height. [/quote] I concur Quote
Coilte Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1350834718' post='1844007'] I concur [/quote] Quote
4 Strings Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1350814652' post='1843653'] Yes, it may seem like a trivial thing to be concerned about, but over the long term it can be of the utmost importance. It is true, that wearing the bass too high effects the R/H and too low, the L/H. The ideal compromise is to have the main body of the bass at about belt buckle height. [/quote] Too low for me. Quote
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