lurksalot Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I am looking to provide a backropdrop or banner for the band, nothing fancy or flash (due to costs) but not overly cheap and nasty either , but cheap and cheerful might work !! My thoughts were centred around some white artwork printed onto black lightweight cloth that could be threaded on a telescopic rod like a fishing pole . this could be hung from, or over, lots of stuff on the back of a pub wall . with a size of about 8 x 5 ft will that work? any thoughts from the collective? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 What would you say was too steep? http://www.rollerbannerstands.com/banner-stands/Barracuda.html ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurksalot Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 I am sure that is value for money but I would have thought a backdrop would go the other way round , by the time we have the backline you would not see half of that unless it is on a high box behind the drummer and then could be limited by a ceiling height. I like the lightness and ease of use though, but could possibly do with a bit more size and a little less 'cleverness?' thanks for the link Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Ours cost about £40 and is made from a black cotton sheet with iron on printer paper from staples. I just printed the letters, cut them out and ironed them on. My wife tidied up the sheet edges by stitching a hem all round. The top hem is a big loop so we can either run a pole thu it, pin it up or gaff tape it to the wall behind. Since this pic was taken we splashed out another £5 to have our website address ironed on. Works a treat as now any pics taken of us in pubs don't havre dart boards, lamps, brass tack, specials menu etc in the background [attachment=121743:IMG_3523.JPG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Point taken; though I know they (or companies like them anyway) do orientation either way. I did think that 8 x 5 ft was a bit small, usually one's I've seen before are like mrtcat's kind of thing, but I remember seeing one roughly 8 x 4-ish hanging off a third lighting gantry behind the drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1350839392' post='1844086'] What would you say was too steep? [url="http://www.rollerbannerstands.com/banner-stands/Barracuda.html"]http://www.rollerban.../Barracuda.html[/url] ? [/quote] IMO not really robust enough for anything but the most polite of gigs. I've had clients who have managed to completely destroy these simply putting them up and taking them down at a handful exhibitions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Not sure some cloth is robust enough but that decision aside... you need to understand where you can use it and how often ..and this means you need to know the stage area and confif. Ours is about 8x 2 feet.. no idea why it came in this measurement but it works .... At some places, it is inadequate.... but at others we just can't use it...hence the more important decision is in the use of, IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Banners are frequently a pain when it comes to finding somewhere to secure them - many happy hours balanced on top of speaker cabs and drum stools... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blademan_98 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I was fortunate enough to be given a 'proper' marketing stand. It packs down into a plastic flight case around 500mm (18") square and 2000mm (3') tall. You can put whatever material background you want up and it has 4 small spot lights too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1350848983' post='1844292'] IMO not really robust enough for anything but the most polite of gigs. I've had clients who have managed to completely destroy these simply putting them up and taking them down at a handful exhibitions... [/quote] Ouch! - I've a few clients been using the same banner(s) for a number of years; they might have a tier system of manufacture like a lot of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurksalot Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1350853024' post='1844373'] Ouch! - I've a few clients been using the same banner(s) for a number of years; they might have a tier system of manufacture like a lot of things. [/quote] Maybe a tier system of roadies might be the issue here , but breaking down in the early hours with any 'helpers' having had a few jars, will test them [quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1350848020' post='1844271'] Ours cost about £40 and is made from a black cotton sheet with iron on printer paper from staples. I just printed the letters, cut them out and ironed them on. My wife tidied up the sheet edges by stitching a hem all round. The top hem is a big loop so we can either run a pole thu it, pin it up or gaff tape it to the wall behind. Since this pic was taken we splashed out another £5 to have our website address ironed on. Works a treat as now any pics taken of us in pubs don't havre dart boards, lamps, brass tack, specials menu etc in the background [attachment=121743:IMG_3523.JPG] [/quote] this is brilliant , it obviously works a charm and a route worth pursuing .cheers. Edited October 21, 2012 by lurksalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1350851380' post='1844343'] Banners are frequently a pain when it comes to finding somewhere to secure them - many happy hours balanced on top of speaker cabs and drum stools... [/quote] Microphone stands are your friend! - My lads band have a banner about 8 x 2 and a couple of boom mic stands adjusted to max height are just right. - and the pole through the top sits nicely in the mic clips. Edited October 21, 2012 by Count Bassy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurksalot Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1350858701' post='1844474'] Microphone stands are your friend! - My lads band have a banner about 8 x 2 and a couple of boom mic stands adjusted to max height are just right. - and the pole through the top sits nicely in the mic clips. [/quote] Quality , great idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Try to find fireproof cloth, if you can. Should have a certificate attesting to it's worthiness for public area use. Some venues could be a bit wary of non-certified stuff. Hope this helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurksalot Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1350862407' post='1844521'] Try to find fireproof cloth, if you can. Should have a certificate attesting to it's worthiness for public area use. Some venues could be a bit wary of non-certified stuff. Hope this helps... [/quote] I will will ask at Tranters market stall for an appropriatte rating certificate , but I may keep a bit schtum to the venues though , I shall store it with all the PAT certificates for our kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1350848020' post='1844271'] Ours cost about £40 and is made from a black cotton sheet with iron on printer paper from staples. I just printed the letters, cut them out and ironed them on. My wife tidied up the sheet edges by stitching a hem all round. The top hem is a big loop so we can either run a pole thu it, pin it up or gaff tape it to the wall behind. Since this pic was taken we splashed out another £5 to have our website address ironed on. Works a treat as now any pics taken of us in pubs don't havre dart boards, lamps, brass tack, specials menu etc in the background [attachment=121743:IMG_3523.JPG] [/quote] Nice professional result, with little outlay, nice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 We get ours from Bandbanners.co.uk. The Quality of the material and print is second to none. Flame retardant and water resistant too. We go for the 3.5M x 2.5M size so we can either have it full or make it smaller for different venues. pics below - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 We tried having a large banner for a while - it looked good at a couple of outdoor festival-type things we did but was hopelessly OTT for pub gigs. We now have two small banners, one 4 x 3 (the main one) which mounts on a lighting pole and is relatively easily squeezed between the pub piano and the door to the Ladies (or whatever) and the other 3 x 2 which mounts on the front of the Roland e-drums when we use them. If you're playing "proper" venues with stages and stuff then 8 x 5 can work, but for pubs you'll waste half your set-up time trying to sort out the bloody banner instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 We've got our 10ft x 3ft banner arriving tomorrow so keep your securing tips coming guys Pics will be posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 We used [url="http://www.awesomemerchandise.com"]www.awesomemerchandise.com[/url] for ours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Securing tips? [url="http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_256931_langId_-1_categoryId_255230"]http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_256931_langId_-1_categoryId_255230[/url] [url="http://www.toolbank.com/135/p/STA084113"]http://www.toolbank.com/135/p/STA084113[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I hope we're talking metres rather than feet for these sizes otherwise they seem a bit on the small side. The last time I was in a band with backdrops we had two approximately 3m x 2m and needed both of them at all but the smallest pub venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1350907097' post='1844833'] I hope we're talking metres rather than feet for these sizes otherwise they seem a bit on the small side. The last time I was in a band with backdrops we had two approximately 3m x 2m and needed both of them at all but the smallest pub venues. [/quote] Stonehenge moment...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1350907097' post='1844833'] I hope we're talking metres rather than feet for these sizes otherwise they seem a bit on the small side. The last time I was in a band with backdrops we had two approximately 3m x 2m and needed both of them at all but the smallest pub venues. [/quote] Actually I find that the 2 x 8 feet banner works really well. At that size, and in a typical pub/small club type venue, the top can be just below ceiling height, and the bottom is well clear of the drummers head. - so it doesn't get in the way on a small stage- and it rolls up to about the size of a small sleeping bag. Anything much deeper and it starts to get lost behind the back line and band members (ooer missus!). All IMHO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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