High notes lost in the mix

[rogerstodge]

Hi all,
The higher i play on the D and G strings especially, the quieter the notes are , if i'm past the 12th fret on the g string its like im not playing, ive ignored it for ages but the drummer mentioned it at last gig so here i am, i'm guessing its eq but i have upped the mids?? ..i play through a markbass 600w head and sometimes thru a sansamp bass driver.. Its the same with all my basses??
Thanks in advance chaps
Paul

[JapanAxe]

Pick or fingers or both? What cab(s)? PA used or not? Monitors?

[rogerstodge]

Hi mate, always a pick with this band, cabs, 1 4x10 and 1 1x15 not thru p.a, mainly a usa p bass with tone and vol right up. And no monitors
Cheers

Edited October 24, 2012 by rogerstodge

[JapanAxe]

You might have [b]too much[/b] bass going on, either from the amp settings or through the voicing of the amp and cabs. If so your low notes will blast out and the mids (which make up the [u]body[/u] of most of the note on the bass) will be left behind. On my previous (Ashdown ABM) rig I had to turn the bass [i]down[/i] to stop it overpowering the rest.

[wateroftyne]

Check your pickups aren't too high.

And, as mentioned above, mids are where it's at. Make sure you have enough going on in the right place.

[charic]

How old are the strings?

[Dave Vader]

How low is your action?

[chris_b]

Does this happen with either cab or only with both cabs?

[KiOgon]

Is it just the one bass you get this with - have you tried another?

[Jus Lukin]

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Edited February 16, 2022 by Jus Lukin

[51m0n]

Sort the pickup height (too high and the strings can choke, too low and you woint get the volume), action of the bass (this can cause string choking oif its wrong too), the eq on the amp (not so much bass!), and have a close look at how you are playing (not that hard with right or left hand and the bass will 'sing' more).

After al of that is sorted, has sir thought of using a wee bit of compression?????

[rogerstodge]

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1351144429' post='1847824']
How old are the strings?
[/quote]Strings are 6 months old approx

[rogerstodge]

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1351163840' post='1848064']
Is it just the one bass you get this with - have you tried another?
[/quote]No mate, seems to be the same with 3 or 4 basses

[rogerstodge]

[quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1351160526' post='1848004']
How low is your action?
[/quote]Low low.. Not done by me tho' i use a pretty good luthier

[rogerstodge]

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1351163280' post='1848053']
Does this happen with either cab or only with both cabs?
[/quote]I havent used a single cab for years so not sure matey, i use both whatever venue size

[rogerstodge]

Think maybe i'll get to next gig half hour early and have a good fiddle with my eq settings,
Thanks for the replies chaps

[LawrenceH]

Make sure those markbass filters are off - the VPF particularly! Off is fully anticlockwise, NOT 12 o clock. The VPF filter cut sits right around the first harmonics of the upper string upper notes, too much of that and it'll suck the volume right out.

[rogerstodge]

[quote name='LawrenceH' timestamp='1351187241' post='1848483']
Make sure those markbass filters are off - the VPF particularly! Off is fully anticlockwise, NOT 12 o clock. The VPF filter cut sits right around the first harmonics of the upper string upper notes, too much of that and it'll suck the volume right out.
[/quote]cheers lawrence, yea both filters are set at 12 o.clock, ill try that thanks

[51m0n]

OK filters at 12 will knacker you completely!
Fully expecting you to say that turning them off has sorted everything out for you no

[LawrenceH]

Yup it's come up on another thread that Simon and I've both commented on, and I think it's a fairly regular issue - those filters are powerful but not well understood and I think Markbass missed a trick by making them so the notch in the knob doesn't sit at 12 when they're off! From previous comments I'm sure a lot of people have been put off Markbass, without realising the filters were frying the sound at what looks like a default setting.
Anyway, I hope it has helped!

[rogerstodge]

Lawrence and Simon... As soon as i've tried it i'll let you know, sounds promising as you both sound pretty sure.

[51m0n]

Heh heh, it will be like a couple of duvets and a mattress have been taken off the front of your rig, or you've had a serious ear syringing.....

Edited October 26, 2012 by 51m0n

[rogerstodge]

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1351267847' post='1849541']
Heh heh, it will be like a couple of duvets and a mattress have been taken off the front of your rig, or you've had a serious ear syringing.....
[/quote]I sure hope so simon, cant wait..

[chrismuzz]

I use compression to combat this, the cheap and easy way out

[rogerstodge]

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1351275157' post='1849662']
I use compression to combat this, the cheap and easy way out
[/quote]Which pedal mate ?