I don't like funk.

[Terry M.]

30 minutes ago, chris_b said:

I Got You (I Feel Good) was recorded in 1965. Predates any other Funk record I know about.
 

I Got You is structurally a 12 bar blues and apparently the funk style was still in development at that time. Cold Sweat shunned traditional chord changes apart from the bridge section and was a "watershed" moment in the movement. Some say I Got You and others say Cold Sweat. I heard it was Cold Sweat from a James Brown documentary. Either way I'm just glad it happened.

[Terry M.]

I would lean more towards Cold Sweat based on the single chord vamp structure (bridge aside)

[fleabag]

Shockeroo, i was in a 7 piece " funk " outfit about 4 years ago, and it was probably the best time ive had in any band.  And yes, we covered James Brown's  ' Get Up '

[Terry M.]

18 minutes ago, fleabag said:

Shockeroo, i was in a 7 piece " funk " outfit about 4 years ago, and it was probably the best time ive had in any band.  And yes, we covered James Brown's  ' Get Up '

You mean Sex Machine?

[fleabag]

Well, the whole song title is  Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine.  To be accurate.

 

But who the funk wants to type that out

 

er....oops

[Terry M.]

15 minutes ago, Terry M. said:

You mean Sex Machine?

He also had a song called Get up off offa That Thing? Just wanted to know which one. It wasn't obvious from your post.

[fleabag]

Yeah good point.

 

But, you're right, Sex Machine was probably the better title, so as to differentiate between the 2.  

 

Ive reported myself to the song title misuse board

[tinyd]

On 30/01/2025 at 11:34, Terry M. said:

I would lean more towards Cold Sweat based on the single chord vamp structure (bridge aside)

Yep, the vamp thing is key I think. I saw a Pee Wee Ellis interview and he called out So What as an inspiration (the horn line) but I think the modal jazz influence is there as well in terms of staying on a single chord for longer.

[Terry M.]

58 minutes ago, tinyd said:

Yep, the vamp thing is key I think. I saw a Pee Wee Ellis interview and he called out So What as an inspiration (the horn line) but I think the modal jazz influence is there as well in terms of staying on a single chord for longer.

That would make sense seeing as Pee Wee had a jazz background. A few of his musicians weren't impressed at the time with the "correctness" of the structure but we all saw what followed shortly after 😊 I've also heard him cite the So What reference 👍

[bubinga5]

The funk. 

 

[fleabag]

 

[funkgod]

On 11/05/2008 at 21:26, silverfoxnik said:

There's some great music that is funky and some really bad music that is funky.. It's not 'funk' that's the issue, just bad music IMO.
 

Have to agree with nick.

i have a 1000+ funk and related cd's  from old to today.

"Funk" has such a wide spectrum nowdays its hard to find a genera of music that the elements of funk has not affected.

its a very personal thing on how we think of it, and all of peoples thoughts on it are valid depending on where there slide is on the ruler.

if i could get a ruler and say thats the total span of "raw funk" to modern funk you could move that slide to the centre and say ok thats where i think it all began, the birth of funk, then im sure each of us cold move the slide on it one way or the other to pinpoint our fave bit.

i like all music, classical soul, latin, jazz, reggae, boogaloo, organ groove acidjazz disco pop rock punk bla bla.

i just take elements of all that a try and  mold them into something useable that i like and can write with, where that all comes out on that ruler ? i dont know, but it sounds funky.

our ideas of funk to put into a descriptive word is also very personal and will not align with someone else's idea of the word.

a good example for me is, i have heard people calling "Nubiyan Twist" a funk band.

yet i cant see that, its too short a descriptive label by far, i see them as a "world music" band... that has elements of lots of funk in there, but mainly i hear African/rap, but also pop jazz, (see below) their thing is so diverse its being stretched in all directions. pushing the boundaries of all we know about any genera of music. i love new cool collective for the same reasons  worth checking both out to see what i mean.

hope all that did not sound too boring

 

[Paul S]

Did anyone mention early Commodores, before Lionel Ritchie took over the singing and went and spoiled it.  Brick House, for me, is a distillation of everything the 1970s had to offer, funk-wise.

 

 

[ProjeKtWEREWOLF]

I like *some* funk, but it has to be very specific, and I have to be in the mood for it. I'm the same with every genre of music. Something will either spark interest or I will hate it. 

 

I haven't found any modern funk stuff I like though. 

I watched a few Mononeon performance videos earlier today. I hadn't heard of him until the new Digitech signature pedal was revealed.   I found his playing to be annoying and too showy.  I got a minute into a solo, and felt irrationally angry for some reason. Weird. Am I wrong here?  Probably triggering people. 😅

[Terry M.]

55 minutes ago, funkgod said:

 

our ideas of funk to put into a descriptive word is also very personal and will not align with someone else's idea of the word.

This might be because of the record industry's over-saturation of the word to sell their products regardless of whether it was funky or not. Now the word can be used to describe even a floor rug! It's such a pervasive term that to now agree on the definition is almost impossible. 

[Terry M.]

9 minutes ago, ProjeKtWEREWOLF said:

I like *some* funk, but it has to be very specific, and I have to be in the mood for it. I'm the same with every genre of music. Something will either spark interest or I will hate it. 

 

I haven't found any modern funk stuff I like though. 

I watched a few Mononeon performance videos earlier today. I hadn't heard of him until the new Digitech signature pedal was revealed.   I found his playing to be annoying and too showy.  I got a minute into a solo, and felt irrationally angry for some reason. Weird. Am I wrong here?  Probably triggering people. 😅

Maybe try a few different clips? I personally think he's amazing but of course he can't possibly appeal to all. I'm equally fascinated by the fact that even though he's right handed he plays left handed on a right handed bass flipped upside down. Just typing that has given me a mild headache 🤣

[funkgod]

18 minutes ago, Terry M. said:

This might be because of the record industry's over-saturation of the word to sell their products regardless of whether it was funky or not. Now the word can be used to describe even a floor rug! It's such a pervasive term that to now agree on the definition is almost impossible. 

100% 🙂

on the whole marketing of just that word there is a big fat book waiting to written !

[Terry M.]

12 minutes ago, funkgod said:

100% 🙂

on the whole marketing of just that word there is a big fat book waiting to written !

Btw I really like Nubiyan Twist 👍

[ProjeKtWEREWOLF]

23 minutes ago, Terry M. said:

Maybe try a few different clips? I personally think he's amazing but of course he can't possibly appeal to all. I'm equally fascinated by the fact that even though he's right handed he plays left handed on a right handed bass flipped upside down. Just typing that has given me a mild headache 🤣

I can see he's very skilled, but I don't think I want to invest time in trying to like it. I've watched 5 or so clips.  The lefty-righty thing is interesting.

[Terry M.]

32 minutes ago, ProjeKtWEREWOLF said:

I can see he's very skilled, but I don't think I want to invest time in trying to like it. I've watched 5 or so clips.  The lefty-righty thing is interesting.

I thought you only saw one clip. I totally get your point however. As much as I admire his skills I personally have no desire to play like that,same with Jaco 👍

Edited Saturday at 15:00 by Terry M.

[Terry M.]

38 minutes ago, ProjeKtWEREWOLF said:

I can see he's very skilled, but I don't think I want to invest time in trying to like it. I've watched 5 or so clips.  The lefty-righty thing is interesting.

Can now see where you said you watched a few clips. My mistake.

[ProjeKtWEREWOLF]

2 hours ago, Terry M. said:

Can now see where you said you watched a few clips. My mistake.

I don't think I did in my first comment. Don't sweat it. I gave it a fair go haha. Not my thing. His signature whammy pedal is pretty cool though. 

[Terry M.]

3 minutes ago, ProjeKtWEREWOLF said:

I don't think I did in my first comment. Don't sweat it. I gave it a fair go haha. Not my thing. His signature whammy pedal is pretty cool though. 

To be fair I thought his signature Fender sounded and played well when I tried one in Guitar Guitar but I couldn't really get past that colour scheme and thought it was pricey for a Mexican made 😎