4000 Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1380474510' post='2225846'] The Brown bass is a Series bass and all standard/omega shaped Series basses are chambered to reduce weight. I'm not sure if other body shape variants (like the Entwhistle bass above) are. [/quote] I had my custom Triple Omega (essentially a Sig Deluxe with options) built chambered but it was still a good 11lbs or so. Quote
Black Coffee Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 [quote name='12stringbassist' timestamp='1380472821' post='2225793'] THIS remains my dream.... [/quote] This bass is an absolute work of art...... 1 Quote
Cosmo Valdemar Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 [quote name='12stringbassist' timestamp='1380472821' post='2225793'] THIS remains my dream.... [/quote] Quote
jazzyvee Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1380474510' post='2225846'] The Brown bass is a Series bass and all standard/omega shaped Series basses are chambered to reduce weight. I'm not sure if other body shape variants (like the Entwhistle bass above) are. [/quote] I think you will find the Brown bass that Stanley Clarke had was a series I bass. The brown bass that Alembic make is based on that bass but is not a series bass. It has hum cancelling pickups as opposed to what alembic refer to as their single coils, and uses their anniversary electronics which is similar due to two volumes and two filters with Q switches, but not the same as the series bass system. [url="http://alembic.stores.yahoo.net/brownbass.html"]http://alembic.store.../brownbass.html[/url] Jazzyvee Edited September 29, 2013 by jazzyvee Quote
Kiwi Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 But is the Brown Bass chambered as was suggested in 4000's post? Quote
lozbass Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Brown Bass and chambers...hmm...I honestly don't know (I'll try to find out) but it would explain a lot. First, the BB is a relatively light bass. Second, I've only played the one that I have, but it's surprisingly resonant and loud when played without amplification - it has an 'organic' and woody tone with a prominent fundamental. My other Alembics sound fairly dead and uninspiring when played acoustically. Agree with Jazzyvee re: BB electronics (Anniversary) - very similar to Series I but a one position boost, hum cancelling pickups, and a good deal less expensive. 4000, ahh, yes rosewood was the default facing on SCs (I'd forgotten) -weird that I've played mainly cocobolo versions: indeed, the only non-cocobolo SC I've played is the buckeye. Nice to see these getting some discussion - my favourite basses by a very long way (despite the idiosyncrasies) Quote
4000 Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) [quote name='lozbass' timestamp='1380527053' post='2226430'] Brown Bass and chambers...hmm...I honestly don't know (I'll try to find out) but it would explain a lot. First, the BB is a relatively light bass. Second, I've only played the one that I have, but it's surprisingly resonant and loud when played without amplification - it has an 'organic' and woody tone with a prominent fundamental. My other Alembics sound fairly dead and uninspiring when played acoustically. Agree with Jazzyvee re: BB electronics (Anniversary) - very similar to Series I but a one position boost, hum cancelling pickups, and a good deal less expensive. 4000, ahh, yes rosewood was the default facing on SCs (I'd forgotten) -weird that I've played mainly cocobolo versions: indeed, the only non-cocobolo SC I've played is the buckeye. Nice to see these getting some discussion - my favourite basses by a very long way (despite the idiosyncrasies) [/quote] All the Brown Bass builds I've followed on the Alembic Club - I'm a member - have been chambered. The one I played was so much lighter than my SC, it was like wearing half the bass. Prior to ordering my custom Alembic (10 years ago now!) Susan Wickersham told me over the phone that all Signature basses used to be solid but no longer were. I specified chambered for my build, just in case. All Series basses are chambered and unless specified otherwise always have been, so far as I'm aware. Of course in keeping with Alembic's 'build anything' ethos I'm sure if you really wanted solid you could have it. If you want to find out about Alembics go to the Alembic Club and browse to your heart's content. The 'Factory to Customer' section is fab. It's a great site and the people over there are very helpful; Mica Wickersham chimes in often. Or you could always drop Mica an email. Edited September 30, 2013 by 4000 Quote
Dingus Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) I love Alembic basses , but I find the more recent designs much more comfortable to play that the classic ones such the full-sized Series basses and the S.C which I grew up fantasising about, but soon found out didn't suit me at all when I was eventually able to buy them . The new Balance K Omega body shape looks exquisite though, and has reignited my Alembic lust . It's more compact, better balanced and lighter , too , so a big improvement all round in those respects. Edited September 30, 2013 by Dingus 1 Quote
4000 Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 I agree that the old shapes had some issues; the Small Standard shape (SCs) tends to balance poorly and the Standard shape tends to be very heavy with the first fret being a fair old stretch for some, although I love the aesthetics of both. The Balance K is a lovely rationalisation and if I could ever afford another that's probably what I'd go for. In my opinion the best Alembics have an Art Nouveau quality that I really love, but which I appreciate is possibly too ornate for some. Quote
Dingus Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) [quote name='4000' timestamp='1380543640' post='2226737'] I agree that the old shapes had some issues; the Small Standard shape (SCs) tends to balance poorly and the Standard shape tends to be very heavy with the first fret being a fair old stretch for some, although I love the aesthetics of both. The Balance K is a lovely rationalisation and if I could ever afford another that's probably what I'd go for. In my opinion the best Alembics have an Art Nouveau quality that I really love, but which I appreciate is possibly too ornate for some. [/quote] The Art Nouveau observation is a good one . The unique aestheitic of those original Alembic basses is like a fusion of that style with that of the less well known movement known a American Arts And Crafts. It's very prevailant in the furniture and structural woodworking in a lot of older homes in Northern California where Alembic was conceived , and I cannot help but think it must have influenced their overall design aestheitic. Edited September 30, 2013 by Dingus 1 Quote
EliasMooseblaster Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 [quote name='12stringbassist' timestamp='1380472821' post='2225793'] THIS remains my dream.... [/quote] I never thought I'd be able to lust after such a gauche-looking instrument...until I heard one being played: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96TjWtm7kSQ Trouble is, for all the talk about the bass itself sounding "immense" or "huge," I do wonder how much of that is down to Entwistle's enormous wall of valve amps in this particular case! 1 Quote
gorandelac Posted March 6, 2024 Posted March 6, 2024 Let's revive this topic... Here are my two beautiful Alembics 5 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted March 6, 2024 Posted March 6, 2024 On 24/12/2012 at 18:12, Dingus said: Bear in mind that Alembic started out as a kind of instrument technology collective for Bay Area musicians rather than as a strictly commercial undertaking and you get some idea of how their unique approach to just about everything has come about . Large quantities of LSD? 2 Quote
three Posted March 7, 2024 Posted March 7, 2024 On 06/03/2024 at 14:27, Baloney Balderdash said: Large quantities of LSD? The heady perfume of exotic wood shavings. I miss these - currently out of reach. Certainly not to everybody's taste but to me, Alembic build a lovely instrument 10 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted March 7, 2024 Posted March 7, 2024 1 minute ago, three said: The heady perfume of exotic wood shavings. I miss these - currently out of reach. Certainly not to everybody's taste but to me, Alembic build a lovely instrument That quite some control panels. But yes, they are beautiful instruments. Personally I would love a Stanley Clarke signature short scale, if only I could ever get me any hopes of having that kind of money to spare. 1 Quote
three Posted March 7, 2024 Posted March 7, 2024 31 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said: That quite some control panels. But yes, they are beautiful instruments. Personally I would love a Stanley Clarke signature short scale, if only I could ever get me any hopes of having that kind of money to spare. The SCs are gorgeous basses in my opinion - less complicated in terms of operation and on-the-fly adjustment, but playability (when they're well set-up) is sublime. This is a little closer (in a storage unit!) 7 Quote
jazzyvee Posted March 12, 2024 Posted March 12, 2024 On 03/01/2013 at 20:36, jazzyvee said: [quote name='bassman344' timestamp='1357231608' post='1919507'] This reads quite impressive. I don't mean to be controversial and start a whole sequence of this and that, but why did it tarnish in the first place in only 9 years to a degree where they (Alembic) were unhappy with it ? Would someone who lives in the European area be fit to get the same level of attention under warranty I wonder..... http://basschat.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/%3C#EMO_DIR%23%3E/blush.png [/quote] At the time my bass was made apparently they were using a different plater for their hardware and the plater cut corners on some of their orders and unfortunately mine was one of those. Needless to say they don't use that company any longer. I think European owners would get the same attention. However if I remember correctly the owner pays shipping out to the USA and Alembic pays shipping back for warranty work. I've had my bass for 11 years now and the plating still looks like new. 1 Quote
Maxwellwoodger Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 My 1993 Alembic Europa Bass with Koa wood ❤️🎸 7 Quote
jazzyvee Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Maxwellwoodger said: My 1993 Alembic Europa Bass with Koa wood ❤️🎸 Lovely Europa. Quote
Burns-bass Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 I’ve owned a few of the lower end models but I’d love one of the expensive ones. Quote
itu Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Hit me with your... by Ian Dury: what's the bass in the video, an Alembic, maybe? Quote
Sarlscharisma Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 My 1984 Spoiler bass. Amazing pickups - even Serek is making amazing basses with Activators now but a bit too rich for me. 3 Quote
Misdee Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 12 hours ago, itu said: Hit me with your... by Ian Dury: what's the bass in the video, an Alembic, maybe? Definitely an Alembic. 1 Quote
Chris2112 Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 When I was an 18 year old I wanted nothing more than an Alembic Stanley Clark with Series electronics. I still do want one. I was at the Gallery in London last January and they had one in with quite an unobtrusive rosewood top in stock. It seemed far better value at about £6999 than the fretless Wal parked next to it for nearly double the price! 2 Quote
NickA Posted May 19, 2024 Posted May 19, 2024 (edited) Gallery's wal pricing is loopy of late... commission sales for optimistic collectors I guess. They've a perfectly nice Wal MK1 for £8250 right now... and an alembic omega for £16500. More work and fancy wood in the alembic, but most of the uplift is some "celeb" connection which seems to pump prices more than the actual bass. The gallery sold that "I've been on a live aid video" Wal to Scott Devine for £18k... nuff said. Edited May 19, 2024 by NickA Quote
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