trace cab numbering system?

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Everytime I think I understand trace's cab nomenclature I find I don't, can anyone post a 'ladybird' guide?

For example:

I think these are all single 15" cabs 1518, 1153, 115?

Cheers

[VTypeV4]

I've found it doesn't always add up as I understand it at least..

For example;

1048H (4x10 plus HF) 10 inch driver, 4 of them, 8 ohm and HF unit
1084 (8x10) 10 inch driver, 8 of them, 4 ohm
1818 (1x18) 18 inch driver, 1 of them, 8 ohm

Which is fine until,,

2103H (2x10 plus HF) using the above doesn't add up: 21 inch driver, 0 of them, 3 ohm and HF..

Which I really think means: 2 speakers, 10 inch size w/3 drive units in total..
2102 (2x10) 2 drivers, 10 inch size w/2 drive units total..

But then 1153 (1x15) and 1153H (1x15 & HF) don't quite add up.

1 drive unit, 15 inches size but where's the 3 come from.

Long live Trace Elliot

[0175westwood29]

dnt forget the 2103x

8ohms 2x10" and 2x5" tweeters

awesome cab tho!

andy

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I'm glad its not just me!

[Delberthot]

Most are straight forward like the 1524, 1248, 1528, 1048H, 1084 etc. Its generally the compact ones that have slightly different and bewildering codes.

2102, 2103H, 2104 (rarer 4ohm cab), 1153 (maybe to match the 2103 cab code?)

The most obvious one is the BFC - make your own mind up what that really stands for going by the size and weight

Combos can be even more be wildering: 1110 (Mk V 4x10" combo), 7210 (GP7 2x10" combo), 1215 (GP12 1x15"combo)

[ahpook]

[quote name='iconic' timestamp='1357084727' post='1917430']
I'm glad its not just me!
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not at all, but i like it.

very....british

[VTypeV4]

[quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1357085329' post='1917435']
Most are straight forward like the 1524, 1248, 1528, 1048H, 1084 etc. Its generally the compact ones that have slightly different and bewildering codes.

2102, 2103H, 2104 (rarer 4ohm cab), 1153 (maybe to match the 2103 cab code?)

The most obvious one [i][b]is the BFC [/b][/i]- make your own mind up what that really stands for going by the size and weight

Combos can be even more be wildering: 1110 (Mk V 4x10" combo), 7210 (GP7 2x10" combo), 1215 (GP12 1x15"combo)
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Trace Elliot claim it stands for bass frequency cabinet.. I, like most others on here rather have our own ideas..

[Delberthot]

[quote name='VTypeV4' timestamp='1357087680' post='1917464']
Trace Elliot claim it stands for bass frequency cabinet.. I, like most others on here rather have our own ideas..
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Yeah Big F*****g Cab

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Thanks guys, anyone know off their head what 15" would usually compliment my SM300-7210H combo?

I'm sure I can run an extension off this?

Cheers again

[TransistorBassMan]

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Yeah Big F*****g Cab
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I remember reading that the BLX combo's got their name because they were the dog's.....

[VTypeV4]

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Thanks guys, anyone know off their head what 15" would usually compliment my SM300-7210H combo?

I'm sure I can run an extension off this?

Cheers again
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Trace 1153 would probably work well..

[Delberthot]

I used both a 1048H and 1153 with my 7210H at different times and both worked well

[iconic]

...thanks guys, but the um err [b]1153[/b]....I'm guessing that is a [b]1[/b]x[b]15[/b]"...so what does the [b]3[/b] mean?

[0175westwood29]

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...thanks guys, but the um err [b]1153[/b]....I'm guessing that is a [b]1[/b]x[b]15[/b]"...so what does the [b]3[/b] mean?
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not a clue! but when i had mine it matched up pefectly in width with the 2103x so maybe something to do with the cab sizing?

andy

[JohnFitzgerald]

I can offer little logic to this argument.

I own or have owned.

1518
1048
1153
2102

The first two made sense.
The second two, God only knows.

They all rock though :-)

Edited January 3, 2013 by JohnFitzgerald

[Merton]

The ones with 2 or 3 at the end were supposed to be part of a modular system which all fitted together (ie the 2s fitted together and the 3s fitted together).

I think.

[Bassman68]

Just to add a bit of confusion to the issue, I'm sure the 3 in certain era cabs referred to 300 watts handling? As these cabs (1153 & 2103) were sized to add to the existing combos as well...Anyone ever use a 1210 combo with an 1153? (tidy little stack).
No mention of the 1810x or 1510x cabs yet either..18'' & 10'' with cross-over, 15 & 10 etc.
Then there were the 'Multistack' wedges in 18,15 & 2x10''.

Edited January 6, 2013 by Bassman68

[VTypeV4]

[quote name='Bassman68' timestamp='1357482174' post='1923160']
Just to add a bit of confusion to the issue, I'm sure the 3 in certain era cabs referred to 300 watts handling? As these cabs (1153 & 2103) were sized to add to the existing combos as well...Anyone ever use a 1210 combo with an 1153? (tidy little stack).
No mention of the 1810x or 1510x cabs yet either..18'' & 10'' with cross-over, 15 & 10 etc.
Then there were the 'Multistack' wedges in 18,15 & 2x10''.
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Both my 1153 and 2103H were 200w handling (fitted with 1x 200w C15T and 2x 100w C10H Celestions) but these were the later green furry carpet finish models. LongtimeFred had an older 1153 and that had a 300w badge on it but this might have been a cosmetic add-on.

Trace did alot of cab options back in the '80s including the monitor wedges mentioned and of course the bi-amp cabs also mentioned but even they don't 'add up' even though their model numbers make it clear as to their config. Wasn't there a range of horn-loaded boxes too with multiple 12s and fifteens?