Rowley Birkin QC Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Only a few hours left on this, serial on neck plate suggests a 63 Pre CBS model, what's the 3rd control for????? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FENDER-BASS-/321050561714"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FENDER-BASS-/321050561714[/url] Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Can't be genuine, there's no mention of uncle's loft. Is that a battery compartment on the back? May have been converted to active, so the 3rd control could be a boost? Quote
Dave Vader Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 seems odd to show the serial and the manual and stuff and then not bother giving any more description. Fishy... And yeah, probably a boost or other active doodad. Quote
Rick's Fine '52 Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Paperwork is from a late 70's instrument? The body could be a year old? The pickguard looks original nitrate, but been drilled for the extra knob. At least the neckplate is original '63, thats gotta be worth £100! Good description and pics though! Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 The back of the body looks it's made of two pieces glued at a crazy angle. Did Fender ever do this? I've not seen this on [i]any[/i] factory made instrument, but I'm not a Fender expert by any means. Quote
warwickhunt Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 The TOTAL lack of info makes me think that it is a wrong un in some way (if not every way)! Quote
The Dark Lord Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 How does it compare to this '63 Precision? [url="http://andybaxterbass.com/details.php?id=338"]http://andybaxterbass.com/details.php?id=338[/url] Quote
Rowley Birkin QC Posted January 4, 2013 Author Posted January 4, 2013 did strike me as being odd that you'd provide no description and have no reserve on a guitar that, if it was original, may be worth a LOT of money??? Perhaps the lack of info is testament to the fact that it's not what it appears? Quote
dustandbarley Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Here's the previous advert - [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FENDER-PRECISION-BASS-1961-PRE-CBS-MADE-IN-USA-/321042615694?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&nma=true&si=ylsDJada%2FngLskeKkwArJgltG4c%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FENDER-PRECISION-BASS-1961-PRE-CBS-MADE-IN-USA-/321042615694?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&nma=true&si=ylsDJada%2FngLskeKkwArJgltG4c%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc[/url] Quote
solo4652 Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Just round the corner from me... I've asked the buyer if he'd be happy for somebody to call round, take the bass apart and check the date stamps before handing over cash. Wonder what he'll say. Quote
SlapbassSteve Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Worth current bid of £255 if even just the neck is kosher... be interested to see what happens here, shame there's no picture of the neck serial... Quote
warwickhunt Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Strange that it didn't sell with a reserve @ £2000+ yet it now has no reserve and less details in the listing. Quote
largo Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 He does say in the listing that he'll let someone pay & collect, so bit of a get out. However, other than the neck plate (which could be original on a bitsa Precision) he doesn't say anywhere that it's an Original bass or give any year. We're all just putting 2+2 together. Quote
warwickhunt Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 [quote name='largo' timestamp='1357315218' post='1920900'] ... he doesn't say anywhere that it's an Original bass or give any year. We're all just putting 2+2 together. [/quote] His previous listing for the exact same bass saysl; "[color=#000000][font=Arial][size=1][center]Vintage Fender Precision Bass 1961 pre CBS[/center][/size][/font][/color][color=#000000] [font="Arial"][size="4"][i]Made in USA[/i][/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000] [font="Arial"][size="4"]All original parts, no replacements. "[/size][/font][/color] Quote
gub Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Did think about puttin a bid on this , see its gone to £555 ATM and as as already been stated strange how it was on before and didn't reach reserve of over £2000 with more info and now no info and no reserve ! Quote
yorks5stringer Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 So the earlier ad says it's a 1961 pre CBs Precision. Suppose I buy it and then it turns out to be a bitsa, do I have right of return as item is misrepresented? (All hypothetical BTW) Quote
gub Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Wouldn't think you would as the ad now gives nothing away ! Quote
warwickhunt Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 [quote name='gub' timestamp='1357320118' post='1921045'] Wouldn't think you would as the ad now gives nothing away ! [/quote] +1 The seller doesn't say what it is or isn't! Actually I've just realised that he has potentially been very VERY clever; watchers/bidders of his earlier listing may well come back to bid on this and get severely stung as he doesn't indicate what it is other than the briefest description... how can a buyer claim misrepresentation? Very clever. Quote
Rick's Fine '52 Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 [quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1357296333' post='1920444'] The back of the body looks it's made of two pieces glued at a crazy angle. Did Fender ever do this? I've not seen this on [i]any[/i] factory made instrument, but I'm not a Fender expert by any means. [/quote] I've never seen that either, the shape at the neckplate doesnt like right either, too square. No description, means no guarantee's at all either. Payment by Paypal only too, so no inspect, and then "no sir, not for me thanks", payment already bagged, take it home sonny! Not for me. Quote
Rick's Fine '52 Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 [quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1357320552' post='1921057'] +1 The seller doesn't say what it is or isn't! Actually I've just realised that he has potentially been very VERY clever; watchers/bidders of his earlier listing may well come back to bid on this and get severely stung as he doesn't indicate what it is other than the briefest description... how can a buyer claim misrepresentation? Very clever. [/quote] This. he know's what he's doing. Otherwise he would describe it as best he could. Quote
gub Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 [quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1357320552' post='1921057'] +1 The seller doesn't say what it is or isn't! Actually I've just realised that he has potentially been very VERY clever; watchers/bidders of his earlier listing may well come back to bid on this and get severely stung as he doesn't indicate what it is other than the briefest description... how can a buyer claim misrepresentation? Very clever. [/quote] Wow that is clever ! The more I think about it , this must be exactly what the seller is doing ! Quote
gub Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Here's one of he questions from previous ad .... Q: Has the bass been refinished as i've never seen a natural finish on a really early precision. A: The bass was originally painted white. It was stripped and varnished shortly after purchase as my dad discovered the blue dye from his jeans was staining the white paint! 21 Dec, 2012 Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Yup, Fender paint was well-known for being stained by idiots who insisted on wearing jeans while playing their instruments, which was a short-lived fad for a few months before musicians went back to playing in lounge suits ... Quote
dustandbarley Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 This seller also sold this - [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321041925815"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321041925815[/url] which appeared in a thread in this forum... So this could well be a probate case as mentioned in the above, albeit a somewhat unorthodox ebay auction? Quote
gub Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 What was the thread saying? I thought probate was when someone dies and wills etc ! Quote
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