Where to find 'new' / 'hardcore' / 'experimental' jazz in London?

[tedmanzie]

Any jazz players/fans here that might be able to put me onto some interesting places to hear live jazz in london, south west london, surrey etc.

I'm looking for new, hardcore, underground jazz. Interesting, young players (but not necessarily), experimental etc. Could be jam sessions in pubs, etc. Could be fusion with other genres etc. Main thing is its got to be interesting and exciting.

Must be the [i]opposite[/i] of polite, traditional, established, nice applause after every solo etc. (no offence intended).


Cheers
Ted

Edited January 12, 2013 by tedmanzie

[bubinga5]

i have no idea what your talking about in your last sentence, but your post is prob more suited to another topic.. [size=4] [/size]

[tedmanzie]

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1358006618' post='1931758']
your post is prob more suited to another topic..
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I don't know what you mean by that either?!
This is 'general discussion' forum?

Let me give you an example - a few years back I was in a late night pub in shoreditch, I can't remember what it was called, but it was obviously a bit of a hangout / jam session for local jazz talent. There was a jam taking place, not on stage, just on the floor with great musicians dropping in and out with people crowding round in a circle to get a view. Really great raw jamming, very exciting etc.

This is what I mean by the opposite of 'polite'.

Any ideas?

Edited January 12, 2013 by tedmanzie

[spencer.b]

Check out the amersham in new cross on Tuesdays, the vortex in dalston, the place mentioned in Shoreditch is probably Charlie Wright's which is still going

[louisthebass]

Urb on here might be able to point you in the right direction - he's a jazz music journalist and seems to have his finger on the pulse?

[tedmanzie]

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Check out the amersham in new cross on Tuesdays, the vortex in dalston, the place mentioned in Shoreditch is probably Charlie Wright's which is still going
[/quote]

Yes that was it - Charlie Wrights - must have been about 8 years ago.
Thanks for the tips.

[tedmanzie]

[quote name='louisthebass' timestamp='1358022905' post='1932103']
Urb on here might be able to point you in the right direction - he's a jazz music journalist and seems to have his finger on the pulse?
[/quote]
Cheers, i'll PM him.

[tonyquipment]

faster but slower..

[Spoombung]

This query comes up a lot. When I've got time I'll pug together a proper guide for all you young Turks

[tedmanzie]

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This query comes up a lot. When I've got time I'll pug together a proper guide for all you young Turks
[/quote]

This info would be appreciated if you can help!

[Bilbo]

The Vortex is good for that sort of thing.

[tedmanzie]

Thanks, i'll check the listings

[toneknob]

Try Cafe OTO in Shoreditch, This fella's on tomorrow night. Join in everyone!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyPSFcGqTqY

Edited January 28, 2013 by toneknob

[BetaFunk]

Boaters Inn, Kingston, Surrey. No improvised jazz but worth a visit.

[url="http://www.boaterslivemusic.com/"]http://www.boaterslivemusic.com/[/url]


+1 The Vortex.

Edited January 28, 2013 by BetaFunk

[BetaFunk]

[quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1359385054' post='1953875']
Try Cafe OTO in Shoreditch, This fella's on tomorrow night. Join in everyone!
[/quote]
Saw him with the Art Ensemble Of Chicago many years ago. Amazing!

[tedmanzie]

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1359389109' post='1953988']
Boaters Inn, Kingston, Surrey. No improvised jazz but worth a visit.
[/quote]

funnily enough i was there last night

[BetaFunk]

[quote name='tedmanzie' timestamp='1359394839' post='1954109']
funnily enough i was there last night
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Fletch's Brew wasn't it?

Sounded interesting. Any good?

[tedmanzie]

yes it had its moments, bit on the nice side for me but good to see, and free!

[BetaFunk]

[quote name='tedmanzie' timestamp='1359448523' post='1954776']
yes it had its moments, bit on the nice side for me but good to see, and free!
[/quote]
Yes i can imagine. I used to like The Plough, Stockwell many years ago with John Stevens etc tearing it up. I was really into the free jazz scene in the 70s and 80s. Happy days!