Norris Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I read the wikipedia entry, and now I'm wondering what post-hardcore and math-rock sound like I must get out more... Quote
Norris Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 [quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1358848493' post='1945848'] P.S. Inventor of post-womble here. You can do it with anything. [/quote] Quote
TheRev Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1358857319' post='1946021'] I read the wikipedia entry, and now I'm wondering what post-hardcore and math-rock sound like I must get out more... [/quote] Math-rock (horrible Americanism that it is) is usually pretty fast with odd time signatures and time changes. There's often a dollop of glitchy type dance stuff in there as well. 65daysofstatic are a classic example [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dDvpZvmZbk[/media] Also Battles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EAzZKLe5nc I reckon these guys got into guitars after spending their teenage years lisening to lots and lots of dace music.... Quote
uncle psychosis Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1358857319' post='1946021'] I read the wikipedia entry, and now I'm wondering what post-hardcore and math-rock sound like I must get out more... [/quote] Math Rock tends to be really riffy, but the riffs are all in odd time signatures (or keep changing time signature) and fast tempos. Some of its really good, but I find most of it to be too annoying to get into---everytime it sounds like they get into a groove it changes Quote
SteveK Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Right! Have acquired a pair of earphones for my laptop, and from the suggestions posted, had a good listen to some of this 'ere 'Post-Rock'. I enjoyed some of it, particularly Sigur Ros. It did occur to me that I have been listening to [i]very[/i] similar stuff to Post-Rock for many years. Some of it is not too dissimilar to a few tracks from Peter Gabriel's OVO album, particularly [url="http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+tower+that+ate+people&view=detail&mid=95114154B414E204812295114154B414E2048122&first=0"]The Tower that Ate People, [/url] and maybe [url="http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=peter+gabriel+low+light&view=detail&mid=E21C46A41BCA50D80D90E21C46A41BCA50D80D90&first=0"]Low Light[/url] A lot of his Passion album would also (IMO) fit the bill. From what I've heard of Post-Rock so far, there's a certain movie soundtrack quality to much of it. Thanks for the heads up. [quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1358842790' post='1945784'] Sounds like Red-era King Crimson [/quote]Y'know, early Crimson was my first thought. Quote
flyfisher Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 [quote name='TheRev' timestamp='1358857961' post='1946040'] I reckon these guys got into guitars after spending their teenage years lisening to lots and lots of dace music.... [/quote] I know I'm finding it hard to keep up with all these genres but 'dace music' sounds a bit fishy to me. Quote
TheRev Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1358868110' post='1946285'] I know I'm finding it hard to keep up with all these genres but 'dace music' sounds a bit fishy to me. [/quote] It's not for everyone - probably because of all the scales.... Quote
TheRev Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Favourite Sigur Ros track: This has to be experienced live to get the full power of this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQsPv4FMyLg And, especially for SteveK - post-rock from before post-rock even existed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCZnXg0vNs0 Quote
SteveK Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 TheRev, Thanks for the Talk Talk link - I do actually have the Spirit of Eden album. I was a bit of a fan... until this album. Loved the previous two. Guess this would now be known as Pre-Post-Rock Quote
xgsjx Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I'm liking this stuff. Some I've heard before. That Tortoise live set is Jazz. No other name for it. Talking about other types of "post xxx" genres, I'll go for Manpat. Quote
bobbass4k Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1358857319' post='1946021'] I read the wikipedia entry, and now I'm wondering what post-hardcore and math-rock sound like I must get out more... [/quote] Post-hardcore is also a bit too wide to really mean anything, it generally means stuff that's quite fast and punky, but has a more melodic edge to it. There's the classic 90's stuff like Fugazi, Shellac, etc.: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVCMLWtVN5E[/media] Then there was a new wave of young bands in the early 2000's, Hundred Reasons, Hell is for Heroes, Reuben, Biffy Clyro, mclusky, loads of them. That stuff tended to be more metally, focussed around riffs and big choruses: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX0BoaKnDRI[/media] Quote
oggiesnr Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I thought that the buzz word was "alt" as in alt-folk and alt-country which really means that it's the music from two generations back rather than the last one. Steve Quote
Marvin Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 [quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1358872930' post='1946365'] TheRev, Thanks for the Talk Talk link - I do actually have the Spirit of Eden album. I was a bit of a fan... until this album. Loved the previous two. Guess this would now be known as [b]Pre-Post-Rock[/b] [/quote] It probably already exists, unfortunately. Post-rock!? Please save me from the ever expanding music genre explosion. Probably made up by some music journo. Heaven help us. Quote
bobbass4k Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 [quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1358896260' post='1946922'] It probably already exists, unfortunately. Post-rock!? Please save me from the ever expanding music genre explosion. Probably made up by some music journo. Heaven help us. [/quote] Simon Reynolds reviewing hex by bark psychosis in 94 I think. Quote
discreet Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 [quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1358896260' post='1946922'] Post-rock!? Please save me from the ever expanding music genre explosion... Heaven help us.[/quote] Well said, post-man. Quote
Jigster Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I play with Those Amongst Us Are Wolves - see sig below and FB link for pics. We are billed as post rock, but gives us licence to really do whatever sits. Bass wise, not really many chances to 'sit in the pocket' - building patterns is how I think of it, and providing connective melodic tissue from the drums to the rest - we are guitar, keys, drums and bass. Link here to two tracks from our fothcoming ep [url="https://soundcloud.com/thoseamongstusarewolves"]https://soundcloud.com/thoseamongstusarewolves[/url] Quote
Jigster Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 It also needs to be as pretentious as possible. Pretentiousness goes a long way in post-rock. [size=4] [/size] Quote
Ruiner Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 As I don't think anyone has mentioned Mono, I guess I will [url="http://youtu.be/OCVnKhVK-WI"]http://youtu.be/OCVnKhVK-WI[/url] Quote
tartrazine Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) Hi Enjoying this thread, I have seen quite a few of these bands and I agree the term is a bit too broad to be helpful. A couple of other bands I've seen to add: [b]Slint,[/b] who allegedly released the first post-rock labelled album though they're more math-rock maybe. One of my favourite tracks: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4XJFsAUYFU[/media] And no one yet mentioned [b]Rothko[/b], who have 2 bass players: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urCW3mEu-ak[/media] Edited January 23, 2013 by tartrazine Quote
thumbo Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 There's also some good bands on the slightly heavier side of [s]post-rock[/s] instrumental rock. Russian Circles (quite progressive music, with lots of loop pedal action done tastefully) [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzYW1pY3hFA[/youtube] Pelican (riffs!) [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlif6FjTkJY[/youtube] Quote
thumbo Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 and I think Grails need mentioning whilst we're here: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsX5ao7HRGI[/youtube] Quote
TheRev Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 [quote name='tartrazine' timestamp='1358952200' post='1947523'] And no one yet mentioned [b]Rothko[/b], who have 2 bass players: [/quote] They had three bass players, Mark Beazley, Crawford Blair, and Jon Meade. Quote
TheRev Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 [quote name='Jigster' timestamp='1358925503' post='1947044'] Link here to two tracks from our fothcoming ep [url="https://soundcloud.com/thoseamongstusarewolves"]https://soundcloud.c...ngstusarewolves[/url] [/quote] Ohh, that's nice - I particularly like 'And so you thought "the sky's the limit"'. There's not enough use of the xylophone in rock music in my opinion. Quote
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