Lowender Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) [quote name='soul deluxe' timestamp='1359332007' post='1953289'] thats not Victor Bailey dude.. wrong color his bass is a Victor Bailey Fender Jazz signature.. think his name is Ton Jardin.. imo a perfect example of an unknown amazing bassist.. as far as i know he has no record deal.. or does not play for a band that has such [/quote] He's terrific. Very musical. Thanks for posting. As for davidsin rocks. I don't get it. Yeah, he's good. Very good. But I don't hear anything special or unique. (Unless I've missed his best stuff). There are thousands of guys who play like Flea. I think he got a rep because he was one of the early YT guys. Good teachers are also a seperate catagory IMO. Bassowman is a guy no one knows who's up there with marlow for mastering covers. I'm normally not as interested in that, but props nevertheless. He does a great job. Edited January 28, 2013 by Lowender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 [quote name='AttitudeCastle' timestamp='1359321951' post='1953138'] Doesn't really bother me, the internet is full of pointless rubbish anyway [/quote] Exactly. Imagine a system whereby everyone on the planet (well, half of them anyway) can post whatever they like and everyone else can look at it. Now, imagine how much of that stuff would be of little or no interest to you personally, for a myriad of reasons. I'd hazard a guess that it would be comfortably in the vast majority. Welcome to the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul deluxe Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) another bassist that is imo one of smokin hot gospel bassists that posts on you tube.. unknown, to most people im guessing..? i bet you dale can teach you a little something now with his 2 5 1 chord lesson..his groove at 7.20 imo makes Sharay Reed look slack, if thats possible.. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ThwuJVcyoA[/media] Edited January 28, 2013 by soul deluxe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 [quote name='soul deluxe' timestamp='1359332834' post='1953301'] another bassist that is imo one of smokin hot gospel bassists that posts on you tube.. unknown, to most people im guessing..? i bet you dale can teach you a little something now with his 2 5 1 chord lesson.. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ThwuJVcyoA[/media] [/quote] Dude's got chops for sure but man he rushes like crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul deluxe Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOJzRxlBRhI&list=FLzVUqeF1SLjxa78y2gd03dQ&index=368 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul deluxe Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeBP7ek9hwg&list=FLzVUqeF1SLjxa78y2gd03dQ&index=381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatboter Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I've uploaded a couple of videos of me playing bass (I can't really solo so I just play some random stuff) but the only purpose is to give an idea what a certain bass sounds... Some basses which I want to buy have these great looks but I'm unfamiliar with the sound so it's helpful to find sounds on YT. There's only song I play along with but that was only because I found out that other vids weren't doing the job properly imo... Still it's great to have these YT bass players on the internet.. there used to be nothing and now there's too much :-) But in the end it's all about finding your own parts.. copying isn't the ultimate thing I'm aiming for. I used to do that a lot but after a while you try to find your own voice and then you start digging in that melting pot where everything went into since you started to listen to bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 [quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1359331627' post='1953285'] I really hope this guy picks up the bass one day, so I can vote for him. [b]Rude language ahoy![/b] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DbUPjEbIvA[/media] [/quote] Love it! It's a great reminder on off days that things aren't as bad as they could be. His scouse accent gives it great comedy appeal too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkW Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1359139001' post='1950686'] To me,none of the players listed in the OP,qualify as being particularly 'great'. [/quote] [size="3"][color="#000000"][font="Calibri"]I guess that’s a subjective point dependent on your individual abilities: compared to me they're all great. But then to be honest, compared to me Tony Newton from Expert Village is a bass god. [/font][/color][/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol303 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1359308004' post='1952833']I think its a vanity thing.[/quote] But doesn't [i]all[/i] performance have a hint of vanity about it? To varying degrees, of course. But isn't performance ultimately about wanting to be appreciated by other people - be it on YouTube or on a stage? Online videos are just another way of getting 'out' of the bedroom without...err... actually doing so (sounds like quantum physics, or something ). Personally I have no issues whatsoever about people posting clips of their playing on YouTube - be it original numbers or covers. "Do what thou wilt," etc, etc. Some of them suck (mine surely would), some of them are hugely inspirational (I'm thinking Andy Saxton, Mike Flynn et al). What's the big deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 [quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1359331627' post='1953285'] I was going to say Scott Devine - but that's my partisanship, as I have met Scott in the flesh. I really hope this guy picks up the bass one day, so I can vote for him. [b]Rude language ahoy![/b] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DbUPjEbIvA[/media] [/quote] This guy actually gigs, and has released a single on vinyl, although neither are quite as entertaining as this video. I know because he opened for us last time we played in Liverpool. His set was cut short when he broke a string and unsurprisingly no-one would lend him a guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 This could be a thread in itself but there are a lot of guys who are considered "great" who just don't move me. This may ruffle some feathers, but... I'd give my left leg to have John Patatucci's skills but I can''t think of a 4 measure phase he ever played that was memorable. Victor Wooton -- sorry. He plays some lovely solo stuff but with the band, I don't hear anything particularly interesting. Billy Sheenan -- same thing -- great "tricks" but other than that, he's a rock and roll bass player. Charlie Haden -- he's interesting and musical, but a master? I doubt he could play over the changes of most standards. Steve Swallow -- I think the fact that he's coming from a solid jazz background and decided to go electric and play with a pick makes him unique. He's fine -- just no monster IMO. Cliff Burton -- I like him. And Master of Puppets is a great album. But one of the greats? I think that's a stretch. There are thousands of guys who play as well, they're just not in Metallica ! LOL So a lot of it comes down to WHERE and with WHOM someone plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1359385829' post='1953899'] This could be a thread in itself but there are a lot of guys who are considered "great" who just don't move me. This may ruffle some feathers, but... I'd give my left leg to have John Patatucci's skills but I can''t think of a 4 measure phase he ever played that was memorable. Victor Wooton -- sorry. He plays some lovely solo stuff but with the band, I don't hear anything particularly interesting. Billy Sheenan -- same thing -- great "tricks" but other than that, he's a rock and roll bass player. Charlie Haden -- he's interesting and musical, but a master? I doubt he could play over the changes of most standards. Steve Swallow -- I think the fact that he's coming from a solid jazz background and decided to go electric and play with a pick makes him unique. He's fine -- just no monster IMO. Cliff Burton -- I like him. And Master of Puppets is a great album. But one of the greats? I think that's a stretch. There are thousands of guys who play as well, they're just not in Metallica ! LOL So a lot of it comes down to WHERE and with WHOM someone plays. [/quote] It's music. It's a matter of taste and the individal listener's emotional connections. I can't stand almost all the jazz I've ever heard, but I doubt your critiques of Steve Swallow and Charlie Haden would bear any scrutiny. The fact is, we are all beginners, just that some are more advanced than others. Another general thing that always pisses me off is that awful brainless statement that most of the players on Basschat could do what (insert name here [usually Adam Clayton] ) does. But they didn't. We can all play that one magical note or phrase, or learn the whole of Portrait of Tracey, but I very much doubt many would have been able to COMPOSE them. The trick is to stop listening to bassists so much and listen to MUSIC. Then form your musical philosophy, develop your skills to match, and do something with them. I mean, if you don't like hearing John Pattitucci, just stop listening to the c***. Edited January 28, 2013 by silddx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 [quote name='soul deluxe' timestamp='1359332834' post='1953301'] his groove at 7.20 imo makes Sharay Reed look slack, if thats possible.. [/quote] I don't think he's nearly as interesting to listen to as Sharay Reed, he's not doing anything I haven't heard a typical gospel player do before whereas Sharay actually knows his way around his fretboard without sounding contrived. Just IMO. I kind of like seeing a good bass player on YT but it's far more interesting watching one play as part of a band as that's where I think the majority of good bass players belong. I've got nothing against people posting playing alongs and such at all, if that's what people like to watch then cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Victor Wooten is the world's finest bass player. Listen past his YouTube vids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1359410832' post='1954486']Victor Wooten is the world's finest bass player. Listen past his YouTube vids.[/quote] I just can't listen to the music he makes. There are players with a fraction of his technique and knowledge who have made better music. I don't care what he [i]can[/i] do on the bass I have to rate him on what he [i]chooses[/i] to do, and on the occasions that he's not obscuring actual notes with string noise he's playing schmaltzy-sounding rubbish. Robert Sledge is a way better bass player. Edited January 28, 2013 by thisnameistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 And neither of them have sold any way near the records Guiggsy has. So what the actual f*** does it all mean? This subject matter and discussion is all bollocks, there is no more point to it than debating whether King Edwards or oak floorboards is better in blackcurrant blancmange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Can you get blackcurrant blancmange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1359413036' post='1954525'] And neither of them have sold any way near the records Guiggsy has. So what the actual f*** does it all mean? This subject matter and discussion is all bollocks, there is no more point to it than debating whether King Edwards or oak floorboards is better in blackcurrant blancmange. [/quote] Are we going by sales as the gauge what's good? Well, then I guess that would make McCartney the worlds best bass player. Wait a minute -- HE IS!!! Edited January 29, 2013 by Lowender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1359413036' post='1954525'] ...whether King Edwards or oak floorboards is better in blackcurrant blancmange. [/quote] My 2p: Gotta be King Edwards. Oak floorboards are just icky. * Puts ocelot down trousers and waits for oak floorboard fans backlash * Edited January 29, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardbass Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) I've enjoyed seeing MarloweDK's online career flourish. He was a standout 'unknown' YT bassist back in the day- I guess now the expectation of him has changed but before the signature bass, DVD and popular website he was just a good guy putting videos on YouTube which showcased a great, relaxed feel. Now he is seen as a teacher and therefore compared to the likes of Scott Devine and Dave Marks who IMHO are better teachers. Good on him though- I am still a fan of his playing and feel. He comes across as a decent chap (but you can tell its a job now- a bit of the joy has gone from his playing) I enjoy Sandokanbass, Knightmayorz is someone who I have followed for a while who has got better and better and before MarloweDK a guy called Stefanof uploaded some great stuff (2006)- not innovative, just well executed, good feel and articulation etc. Check out jcsgroove too- another great guy and a player with a good groove. The 2 Joy to the World Sharay clips are sublime. Recently I have loved the vibe and interplay on the Michael League trio videos. Just my two penneth. Edited January 29, 2013 by chardbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Nobody has mentioned this guy yet! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x2i7AmCHXM[/media] BTW, Youtube is all things to all people. Anyone expecting to like all of it is simply naive or deluding themselves. Edited January 29, 2013 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiano Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1359447951' post='1954771'] Nobody has mentioned this guy yet! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x2i7AmCHXM[/media] BTW, Youtube is all things to all people. Anyone expecting to like all of it is simply naive or deluding themselves. [/quote] Apologies if this is a daft question - Is that the guy from Barcelona??? Seen him/someone like him playing in the street many times.. Funky as it gets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Vader Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1359422659' post='1954655'] My 2p: Gotta be King Edwards. Oak floorboards are just icky. * Puts ocelot down trousers and waits for oak floorboard fans backlash * [/quote] No, I like a decent woody finish on my blackcurrant blancmange. You are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 [quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1359453431' post='1954847'] You are wrong. [/quote] Sorry, can't answer you right now - there's an ocelot biting my scrotum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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