Musicman20 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Posted February 21, 2013 [quote name='Stan_da_man' timestamp='1361473067' post='1986337'] Guessing you haven't tried a BFM cab then... [/quote] No...and to be honest from the descriptions I don't think they would suit my goals unfortunately. Quote
IanA Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 These cabs are starting to filter through to players in America and are getting some rave reviews, I feel another trip to Warwick looming! Quote
Musicman20 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 Almost tempted to finally get a lightweight 2x12....very close to making a deposit. Quote
The Dark Lord Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 I see that the 1x12 is a little bit heavier than Barefaced's Compact 1x15. Quote
IanA Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 [quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1363970230' post='2020356'] I see that the 1x12 is a little bit heavier than Barefaced's Compact 1x15. [/quote] Yeah that's the extra tone lol Quote
Musicman20 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 [quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1363970230' post='2020356'] I see that the 1x12 is a little bit heavier than Barefaced's Compact 1x15. [/quote] I don't think any of these cabs are a problem to shift. It all depends on tone and quality, so choose whichever floats your boat Quote
wateroftyne Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Helloooooooo! I reckon Jim Bergantino rules the roost when it comes to build quality. Quote
Musicman20 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1363985712' post='2020702'] Helloooooooo! I reckon Jim Bergantino rules the roost when it comes to build quality. [/quote] Absolutely! He also has that eye for style as do Aguilar. I need to hear the 212... Quote
JTUK Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1363992305' post='2020820'] Absolutely! He also has that eye for style as do Aguilar. I need to hear the 212... [/quote] looks the DB's to me.. deffo can build a great looker... Quote
Anders Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Bergantino is one of those cabs I would love to hear and try with Ampeg SVT an V4BH,Aguilar DB too. Is that tolex similar to Trace Elliot's maybe? I bet they sound a million times better though,through my ears anyway. Quote
wateroftyne Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='Anders' timestamp='1364085333' post='2021875']Is that tolex similar to Trace Elliot's maybe? [/quote] It's some sort of carbon fibre, I think. Quote
gafbass02 Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 They look amazing! My AE210's are possibly the best music thing I've ever bought, they utterly flatten my previous rig for tone; plus that new finish looks a lot more durable, and so much cooler there than on a 30w Marshall combo. Quote
ebenezer Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 yes, look to be nice cabs . .with the 7oz magnet wattage will be around 250 to 300 imo 11oz and 4 to 500watts might have been good(barefaced 12s) i have ht112er and happy with muscular tone with good midrange although on heavy side 44lbs . . might swap 12s for kappalites . Quote
ern500evo Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1363985712' post='2020702'] Helloooooooo! Oh s**t, I really did not need to see that!! Damn you!!!! [/quote] Edited March 24, 2013 by ern500evo Quote
Musicman20 Posted March 24, 2013 Author Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='ebenezer' timestamp='1364144150' post='2022424'] yes, look to be nice cabs . .with the 7oz magnet wattage will be around 250 to 300 imo 11oz and 4 to 500watts might have been good(barefaced 12s) i have ht112er and happy with muscular tone with good midrange although on heavy side 44lbs . . might swap 12s for kappalites . [/quote] 700 for the 212. Quote
GUI101 Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Why does this always happen to me..... Have been trying to decide between barefaced s12t and the hd212, the s12t had it on weight..... And now this!!! Well that's just great now ain't it! Quote
Anders Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1364102906' post='2021907'] It's some sort of carbon fibre, I think. [/quote] It certainly looks like carbon fiber anyway,more so than the TE tolex.I'm it's high quality stuff. Quote
IanA Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 [quote name='GUI101' timestamp='1364157318' post='2022707'] Why does this always happen to me..... Have been trying to decide between barefaced s12t and the hd212, the s12t had it on weight..... And now this!!! Well that's just great now ain't it! [/quote] Hd212 is in another league altogether for tone and build quality, I assume the CN212 is as well, but in a very lightweight package! Quote
tubbybloke68 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 IF ONLY IT HAD TILT BACK WHEELS IT WOULD BE SOO PERFECT!! Jeez I'm soo lazy these days :-D Quote
tubbybloke68 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 IF ONLY IT HAD TILT BACK WHEELS IT WOULD BE SOO PERFECT!! Jeez I'm soo lazy these days :-D Quote
molan Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I'm looking forward to trying these head to head with Aguilar and maybe even MarkBass in a little fight of the lightweights duel! Shame my local MarkBass 2x12 has just sold as it would have been really interesting to match it up against the Berg. I know a lot of people don't rate MB cabs but I think some of them can sound really nice with a good head and decent bass. I definitely feel a bit of a shootout coming in April. Will definitely have to put an ATS 3x12 (not a true 3x12 as two speakers are some sort of passive radiator) into the mix as well. I've tried it briefly and it sounds really big from such a small form factor Quote
IanA Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 [quote name='tubbybloke68' timestamp='1364225556' post='2023423'] IF ONLY IT HAD TILT BACK WHEELS IT WOULD BE SOO PERFECT!! Jeez I'm soo lazy these days :-D [/quote] I just bought a rocknroller upright cart off thoman, cost me about £30. Has a long foot plate so that you can get it right under the cab. I would still want a cart for a 20 kg cab, so I might as well have the tone I like and stick with the HD212. Quote
One Drop Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 [quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1360007565' post='1963524'] Meh. Two years after the neo price crunch Jim Bergantino wakes up, realizes that the sky hasn't fallen after all, and resumes using neo drivers. It's not a bad thing, but hardly a stop the presses moment. [/quote] Maybe he wasn't making any margins with the price of the neo speakers, and was waiting to see if the prices stabilized before deciding to continue. In any case he developed the ceramic HD212 which is an astoundingly good cab, and if the CN212 are anywhere near these tonally with such a big savings in weight then he has done something great again. Any new cab from Jim is a stop-the-presses moment, for those that have heard them and like what he does. I'll take my NV cabs with my SVT over any cab out there, including the fEARful style ones and other PA style cabs I've heard. If I needed a more portable solution to what I use now I'd audition these in a heartbeat. Quote
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