mcnach Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Does anybody know where I can find such a thing? It's not a big issue, 19 vs 20mm, but I do feel the wider spacing more comfortable and I'm thinking about replacing the bridge in my Vintage brand Jazz for that reason. I'm playing it a lot lately and for her birthday I want to make her feel even better. Sorry, I meant for ITS birthday and make IT feel even better. I have found enough 20mm spacing bridges (60mm between E and G ridges), but not in the traditional look, which I prefer. Does anybody know of such a beast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Rich Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) You could probably get 20mm out of the old style 60s BBOTs, they've got threaded saddle pieces which allow you to position the string width ways. [IMG]http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx159/richardmatthews_photos/forum%20stuff/suspectbridge.jpg[/IMG] Edited February 6, 2013 by Fat Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 That's an idea, although wouldn't the string tend to fall back into a "straight" position with just a small amount of encouragement? There must be a proper 20mm out there. I can't be the only one who likes that spacing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Rich Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Strings seem to stay put pretty well, I guess if you're using lighter strings there may be less tension holding them in place. You could always choose the grooves that work for you and open them up with a file. I think new Badass bridges come unfiled don't they? That way you could choose your spacing (plus it's the bridge Marcus Miller uses ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) Surely all you need is something with sideways adjustability - Schaller 3D (an excellent bridge IMHO) or the Hipshot A Style (Fender mount) would give you this flexibility and [i]should [/i](no guarantees) retrofit over where an old BBOT used to be. Worst thing is you'd have to fill/redrill a few holes. EDIT: Ignore me, I've just re-read the OP and just realised that you've already been down this route. That'll teach me to skim read Edited February 7, 2013 by neepheid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus x-1 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 My solution; get a BBOT baseplate and source some Squier CV P or jazz saddles and screws (they come in chrome or brass) depending on what CV they came from, 20mm spacing. Fit it all together, bingo, BBOT with 20mm spacing. HTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1360243648' post='1967237'] Surely all you need is something with sideways adjustability - Schaller 3D (an excellent bridge IMHO) or the Hipshot A Style (Fender mount) would give you this flexibility and [i]should [/i](no guarantees) retrofit over where an old BBOT used to be. Worst thing is you'd have to fill/redrill a few holes. EDIT: Ignore me, I've just re-read the OP and just realised that you've already been down this route. That'll teach me to skim read [/quote] no problem yeah, I have no problem getting 20mm spacing bridges. In fact, I already have one! But I'd rather keep the look... what can I say, I'm vain that way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Fat Rich' timestamp='1360229674' post='1966934'] Strings seem to stay put pretty well, I guess if you're using lighter strings there may be less tension holding them in place. You could always choose the grooves that work for you and open them up with a file. I think new Badass bridges come unfiled don't they? That way you could choose your spacing (plus it's the bridge Marcus Miller uses ) [/quote] and a hundred more Well, this is for a black/rosewood Jazz, not the CIJ75... which... already has a Badass (not my choice, previous owner's!!! I'm not a MM fan! I promise!!! ) I think your idea is so far the closest one to a solution.. if I find one that doesn't cost too much just because it's "vintage style". Edited February 7, 2013 by mcnach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 [quote name='Cygnus x-1' timestamp='1360252802' post='1967454'] My solution; get a BBOT baseplate and source some Squier CV P or jazz saddles and screws (they come in chrome or brass) depending on what CV they came from, 20mm spacing. Fit it all together, bingo, BBOT with 20mm spacing. HTH. [/quote] Now that's an option, I suppose the extra 1mm per saddle would not cause much trouble, it just means the saddles will be slightly, a tiny bit, angled... I shall try! I already have all the components, I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Just measured my AV '62 Jazz sitting next to me & it is set with each string at 20mm almost exactamundo, on the standard Vintage style Fender bridge with the screw saddles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Rich Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1360254579' post='1967497'] and a hundred more Well, this is for a black/rosewood Jazz, not the CIJ75... which... already has a Badass (not my choice, previous owner's!!! I'm not a MM fan! I promise!!! ) I think your idea is so far the closest one to a solution.. if I find one that doesn't cost too much just because it's "vintage style". [/quote] You might be able to just get the threaded saddles, maybe on eBay or through someone like the BassDoc. Can't believe the 75 already has a Badass How did those Fat Beams work out, by the way? Were they the strings you were looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 [quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1360255043' post='1967510'] Just measured my AV '62 Jazz sitting next to me & it is set with each string at 20mm almost exactamundo, on the standard Vintage style Fender bridge with the screw saddles. [/quote] That's promising! Could I please have you go back and measure again? This time from the groove (string centre) on the E saddle, to the groove on the G saddle. This is because measuring 19 vs 20mm sometimes can be innacurate, but by measuring between the extremes you get a better reading. It should be 60mm for the 20mm bridge, and noticeable shorter otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 [quote name='Fat Rich' timestamp='1360257632' post='1967603'] You might be able to just get the threaded saddles, maybe on eBay or through someone like the BassDoc. Can't believe the 75 already has a Badass How did those Fat Beams work out, by the way? Were they the strings you were looking for? [/quote] Yes, the CIJ75 has the Badass... and the J-Retro I have for it... has a black plate (I know, I know! shut up! ) The Fat Beams *look* like they are the right stuff, but I have not yet tried them! Too many other things got in the way. I could change them easily enough rather than being 10min on BC, but... "Hi, my name is McNach and I am an addict" I have used the Stingray instead of the SUB for those gigs where I normally would use the SUB, and I am lately using the Jazz (or the L2000) for the others... but I have another one on Sunday for which I'd like to use the SUB, so the Fat Beams will be on this weekend. I will report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) Here you go:- Edited February 7, 2013 by KiOgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Just about the same on my AV '57 too [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/kjon51/Fender%2057%20Precision%20Bass%20American%20Vintage/20130207_185243_zps2d28633a.jpg[/IMG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Nice, thanks! I will try to find one of those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Update: I just installed one of those Fender bridges.. it's perfect!!! No worries about the string coming off the slot, it's really held tightly. So that's one of the Jazzes sorted, with a string spacing of 20-21mm, and I love it! Thank you, Fat Rich and KiOgon for pointing me towards these bridges. I suspect that the Badass II on my Japanese 75RI will soon be for sale... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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