The Smiths Bass Player

[Nail Soup]

1 hour ago, spongebob said:

 

He is not appreciated......still!

Indeed - I mean, check the guy’s track record.

And where do you think they got the name The Smiths from in the first place?

[Slappindabass]

Cemetery gates is a great line.

[Munurmunuh]

On 02/10/2021 at 14:00, tegs07 said:

Not only was he refusing to pay ex-Smith’s members for their contributions he was insulting their contributions calling them as replaceable as parts of a lawnmower.

 

To be accurate....

 

....they were paid, the disagreement was over how the performance royalties etc were to be divided up. Moz+Marr couldn't prove that Rourke+Joyce had been informed of and had agreed to the 40–40–10–10 split that had been operating since day one. 

 

Since Rourke had made a final settlement before the trial and couldn't exploit the decision made in Joyce's favour I guess that means performance royalties are now being split 32½–32½–10–25? At any rate, Joyce and Rourke were always getting a share of the performance profits.

 

 ....It was Joyce's own lawyer who used that description of Moz's attitude towards Rourke and Joyce

 

I'm sure if The Smiths reformed, the absence of Joyce trotting along behind the drums would make 0% difference, either to the massive sales or the quality of the performances. And I'm sure if Rourke was offered 10% of the massive mountain of money sitting waiting for that moment, he would be extremely happy.

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by Ricky Rioli
Apparently incapable of completing a sentence at the first attempt

[tegs07]

21 minutes ago, Ricky Rioli said:

 

To be accurate....

 

....they were paid, the disagreement was over how the performance royalties etc were to be divided up. Moz+Marr couldn't prove that Rourke+Joyce had been informed of and had agreed to the 40–40–10–10 split that had been operating since day one. 

 

Since Rourke had made a final settlement before the trial and couldn't exploit the decision made in Joyce's favour I guess that means performance royalties are now being split 32½–32½–10–25? At any rate, Joyce and Rourke were always getting a share of the performance profits.

 

 ....It was Joyce's own lawyer who used that description of Moz's attitude towards Rourke and Joyce

 

I'm sure if The Smiths reformed, the absence of Joyce trotting along behind the drums would make 0% difference, either to the massive sales or the quality of the performances. And I'm sure if Rourke was offered 10% of the massive mountain of money sitting waiting for that moment, he would be extremely happy.

 

Thanks. I was just writing from memory having read his autobiography some years back.
It’s still sad that bands sully their reputation by squabbling in court and ripping each other off, particularly if they align themselves with left wing anti capitalist rhetoric. Speaking of which how did Morrisey end up politically so misaligned? The full court transcript is here if anyone is interested https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/1998/1711.html

[Fozza]

I love the judge's description of Morrissey in the trial - "devious, truculent and unreliable where his own interests were at stake".

 

Morrissey wrote a bitchy song called "Sorrow Will Come in the End" about the whole affair. It's excruciating.

 

Legalized theft
Leaves me bereft
I get it straight in the neck
(Somehow expecting no less)
A court of justice
With no use for truth
Lawyer...liar
Lawyer...liar
You pleaded and squealed
And you think you've won
But sorrow will come
To you in the end
And as sure as my words are pure
I praise the day that brings you pain
Q.C.'s obsessed with sleaze
Frantic for fame
They're all on the game
They just use a different name
You lied
And you were believed
By a J.P. senile and vile
You pleaded and squealed
And you think you've won
But sorrow will come
To you in the end
And as sure as my words are pure
I praise the day that brings you pain
So don't close your eyes
Don't close your eyes
A man who slits throats
Has time on his hands
And I'm gonna get you
So don't close your eyes
Don't ever close your eyes
You think you've won
Oh no

Edited October 5, 2021 by Fozza

[tegs07]

12 minutes ago, Fozza said:

I love the judge's description of Morrissey in the trail - "devious, truculent and unreliable where his own interests were at stake".

 

Morrissey wrote a bitchy song called "Sorrow Will Come in the End" about the whole affair. It's excruciating.

 

Legalized theft
Leaves me bereft
I get it straight in the neck
(Somehow expecting no less)
A court of justice
With no use for truth
Lawyer...liar
Lawyer...liar
You pleaded and squealed
And you think you've won
But sorrow will come
To you in the end
And as sure as my words are pure
I praise the day that brings you pain
Q.C.'s obsessed with sleaze
Frantic for fame
They're all on the game
They just use a different name
You lied
And you were believed
By a J.P. senile and vile
You pleaded and squealed
And you think you've won
But sorrow will come
To you in the end
And as sure as my words are pure
I praise the day that brings you pain
So don't close your eyes
Don't close your eyes
A man who slits throats
Has time on his hands
And I'm gonna get you
So don't close your eyes
Don't ever close your eyes
You think you've won
Oh no

Kind of sums him up for me. Probably written in the garden of Clark Gables old house in the LA sunshine sipping a nice little number from Nappa.
The slightly awkward and pretentious lad who but for a chance  encounter would probably have been a librarian in a small flat in Salford and all he can come up with is bitterness and less forgivable very average tunes.

Edited October 5, 2021 by tegs07