Les Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Just picked up a Cort M700 guitar, it's really nice, I'm dead pleased with it but I want to change the strings. This thing has locking tuners WTF ? What is this devilry, is it a trick devised by our lesser brethren to make bass players lives miserable ? I'm kind of assuming I put the string through the post, pull it tight, clamp the wheel at the back of the tuner tight then tune up but I thought I'd better ask the font of all knowledge first. Les
Ancient Mariner Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Yup, just like you described it. Be careful, because some lockers can have a pin that falls out and gets lost. Also some of them will trim the string flush as they are locked, so make sure you put it in from the correct side (IF they are that type).
Les Posted February 10, 2013 Author Posted February 10, 2013 Thanks for that. had to read the second bit about cutting them flush twice, that would be hilarious Thankfully these aren't that type.
BigRedX Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 Looking tuners are great because they reduce the amount of string wrapped around the machine head posts to a minimum and therefore massively improve tuning stability.
Les Posted February 10, 2013 Author Posted February 10, 2013 Yes, I believe that's the case. This has a floating trem on it as well so I'm sure they'll help.
chrismuzz Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 Do locking tuners exist for bass? I've never actually seen them... And if they do, would they still hold the instrument in tune?
rubis Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 I have a Patrick Eggle Milan bass which has locking Sperzal tuners, they work fine
lettsguitars Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 The little pin clamp things tend to get stuck too. Locking tuners on guitars I find are a pain in the ass. Always snap the strings if you need to take em off for any reason.
BigRedX Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1360531148' post='1971975'] Do locking tuners exist for bass? I've never actually seen them... And if they do, would they still hold the instrument in tune? [/quote] I've got a Hartke XL4 Bass with locking tuners.
LukeFRC Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 So locking tuners lock the string? I always presumed you tuned up and then it locked the tuner post so it didn't move at all....
chrismuzz Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1360538133' post='1972135'] So locking tuners lock the string? I always presumed you tuned up and then it locked the tuner post so it didn't move at all.... [/quote] I thought that too. Maybe they'll work better than I imagined! A locking drop D tuner would be very interesting indeed...
lettsguitars Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 They just make string changes quicker and stop any slipping which I have never found to a problem anyroad.
Ancient Mariner Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 That's correct. The string wrap thing BRX refers to can be a problem if you like to dive bomb a lot, but it can also reduce string breakage. I've found that wrapping a couple of turns even with locking tuners reduces breakage because there is less stress at the right angle point where the string enters the tuner post. Not all strings suffer breakage, but DRs (my preference) do so very badly IF you loosen the string off & then re-tension it.
Guest bassman7755 Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) Sperzel make locking bass tuners, bloody marvelous things - takes all the hassle out of string changes, no more guessing how much slack on the string is required to get the right number of turns on the peg, and does away will all the tedious winding. Probably have to order them direct from the states though from somewhere like here http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/bass_tunerssperzel.htm Edited February 16, 2013 by bassman7755
MoonBassAlpha Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Got Sperzel locking tuners on 2 basses and 1 guitar. They are very nice quality and light weight too. Seen them on eBay over here, so they are available.
xilddx Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 I have had Sperzels, and currently have the Fender branded Schallers on my Deluxe Strat. They are brilliant. Never used them on a bass though.
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