andytoad Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Hello all, Need a little advice, I have just bought a lovely TE V6, that runs at 4 or 2 OHM. Is it essential for reliability that I match the cab Ohmage too? I can make 4ohm from my two SWR cabs, but occasionally I like to use one at 8 ohms. Does this mean I will end up with more that valves glowing if a use an 8 ohm speaker when the amp is running at 4 or 2 ohms? thanks in advance for you knowlegable advice! Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 With valve output stages, the ohmage must be matched. If you run an 8 ohm load from a valve amp's 4 ohm output you risk trashing your output transformer. There is not the leaway that SS power amps have with only minimum load requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG3 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I asked the same question when I had a V6 and the general answer was that it was risky - as above. But others said it was fine, I preferred not to risk it myself just incase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voxpop Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Also if you are new to valves.... Don't turn the amp on with no speakers connected. This can cause damage to the transformers. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 [quote name='S9_S12_Bass' timestamp='1360681014' post='1974502'] I asked the same question when I had a V6 and the general answer was that it was risky - as above. But others said it was fine, I preferred not to risk it myself just incase. [/quote] It's true that some amps, and output transformers, are more forgiving than others. The general advice with valve amps is to always match impedances though. If you don't you are taking a risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytoad Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Ok all, thanks for the advice, i shall stick to 4 ohms! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Surprised there's not an 8 Ohm option. Sounds like its been designed for use with multiple cabs, with the 2 Ohm option. With tranny amps, they can drive a range of speaker impedance but the power output reduces with rising impedance. They do struggle with 2 Ohms though, few can do that one - its almost a short circuit at lower frequencies! Can a valve power section drive a higher impedance ok, but needs care driving lower? (ie could the OP's V6 drive 8 Ohms ok - set to 4 Ohms?) >Forget to add my expression of jealously of the V6! Edited February 12, 2013 by 4 Strings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 [quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1360708202' post='1975315']...Sounds like its been designed for use with multiple cabs, with the 2 Ohm option...[/quote] There are 6 x KT88 valves in there; 'multiple cabs' would be almost an understatement. Cab power handling is better now than 'back then', but this is not a bedroom practice amp. They were designed to run a (very...) full stack. [quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1360708202' post='1975315']...Can a valve power section drive a higher impedance ok, but needs care driving lower? (ie could the OP's V6 drive 8 Ohms ok - set to 4 Ohms?)...[/quote] The answer to this is: 'Sometimes, yes...', but finding out with any one amp with any one cab can be risky. Unless someone else has already done this successfully with the V6, I would suggest that it's not a good idea to find out, as it may (well...) destroy the amp, or, at least, it's o/p tranny. Some amps are (slightly...) more tolerant than others, but... Hope this helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 [quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1360708202' post='1975315'] Surprised there's not an 8 Ohm option. Sounds like its been designed for use with multiple cabs, with the 2 Ohm option. With tranny amps, they can drive a range of speaker impedance but the power output reduces with rising impedance. They do struggle with 2 Ohms though, few can do that one - its almost a short circuit at lower frequencies! Can a valve power section drive a higher impedance ok, but needs care driving lower? (ie could the OP's V6 drive 8 Ohms ok - set to 4 Ohms?) >Forget to add my expression of jealously of the V6! [/quote] higher impedances are bad, lower are okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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