juliusmonk Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Mark King is awesome. Contrary to a previous poster, for me the Jaydee tone was a bit 'raw', and I prefer the Alembic and Kingbass tone. But I have been a fan since the early days anyway. He just blew my mind - as Marcus, Jaco, Victor and M. Manring did. And he sings too. His lines are inventive and groovy, and he managed to put the bass in the 'can-be-spectacular' instrument category for mainstream (white) audiences. If anything, I think that he reached the peak of his technique very early on (but this may be true of many virtuosos), and didn't evolve it much. With his natural talent, I'm sure he could have done so many things on fretless, tapping, harmonics, chords, you name it. For some reason, he put songs first, and their widespread success in the cheesy late 80s were not in his favour as a player's player. But he was always honest and this isn't detrimental of what a fantastic player he is, whether you like his music or not. 'Influences' should be a mandatory listen for any aspiring bassist - at least once. The recent 'Live in Soho' is pretty much a live rendition of that album. Slap is cool. I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassPimp66 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) I'm a big fan! [size=4]1) MK is a great composer. Great songs. Great melodies.[/size] 2) MK is a monster groover. Slap or finger-style. 3) MK created something new. He's a leader. Not a follower. 4) MK is a hard-working, honest musician. He's really sweating it out there. He's not taking short-cuts. 5) MK is a singer. How the hell does he do that??? I still wonder. 6) MK is an inspiration to thousands of bass players around the world. 7) MK is still relevant today after a career that spans 30 years. 8) MK contributed to many technical advancements in lutherie. 9) MK is the coolest chap on planet bass. 10) Oh, did I mention that SLAPPING IS AWESOME ???!!!! Edited February 24, 2013 by BassPimp66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceonaboy Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1360800748' post='1976899'] 100% agree with that. PP I can only marvel at his mastery, while not being totally into his music. As a demo as to what makes me want to nick someone elses hands; I was at JD's to accidentally meet MK because I wanted a bass to sound like this & John put the circuit in......... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffZXnWkbkgs[/media] [/quote] Nice playing, but what a horrible bass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 [url="http://youtu.be/Cz55QpYfX9g"]http://youtu.be/Cz55QpYfX9g[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 [quote name='iceonaboy' timestamp='1361711037' post='1989539'] Nice playing, but what a horrible bass! [/quote] It's only a custom EB3, as a lifelong EB user he had it made after his Gibson was nicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_lindsay Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) Reading this thread has made me revisit my old Level 42 albums. I bumped into Mark King in a Glasgow restaurant just after the Standing In The Light album had been released, and the band were currently on tour (circa 1983). I was a 19 year old bass nut who wasn't really aware of the bands music other than the "Living It Up" single which was in the charts at that time. Mark was great, we talked about basses and he said I should give John Diggens a call. I was invited along to the gig later and it was a completely incredible gig. I was blown away by Mark's playing - total powerhouse on his Jaydee. I did call John diggens, and had him make me a Jaydee bass (a double octave neck GA24), which I picked up from his Moseley workshop. Great menories. Anyhow, I'm now off to immerse me self in the Influences CD. [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/kevin_lindsay/58ACC7B4-B104-49C0-AC9A-B06B4B1CCD05-528-000000692502AC6C.jpg[/IMG] Edited February 24, 2013 by kevin_lindsay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 [quote name='kevin_lindsay' timestamp='1361714268' post='1989598']I bumped into Mark King in a Glasgow restaurant just after the Standing In The Light album had been released...............Mark was great, we talked about basses and he said I should give John Diggens a call. I was invited along to the gig later and it was a completely incredible gig. I was blown away by Mark's playing - total powerhouse on his Jaydee. I did call John diggens, and had him make me a Jaydee bass[/quote] Now that's influence! Amazing! JD has his two sons working for him too now, so I'm glad that even though MK doesn't use his as much that JayDee themselves are up to their eyes in work (18 month waiting list). I believe a fair amount of that is Sabbath fan orientated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_lindsay Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 What was the name of the second album by M (yup, of Pop Musik fame), where Level 42 were the musicians on it? I had the album ages ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 [quote name='kevin_lindsay' timestamp='1361738574' post='1990170'] What was the name of the second album by M (yup, of Pop Musik fame), where Level 42 were the musicians on it? I had the album ages ago [/quote] The Official Secrets Act. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Official_Secrets_Act_%28album%29 Thanks for making me aware. I dig M. best, bert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 [quote name='juliusmonk' timestamp='1361709452' post='1989498'] Mark King is awesome. Contrary to a previous poster, for me the Jaydee tone was a bit 'raw', and I prefer the Alembic and Kingbass tone. [/quote] I always preferred his Status and Alembic sounds. I think the Status sound was the best though. When I had my Series II I played Level 42 tunes on it all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I bought a live L42 CD in one of those cheapie shops that sells non-descript CDs for a £5. It's from 2006 on the "Forever Gold" label cat no. FG407 from Holland............ and that's your lot - on a single page cover apart from the tracks it has no details of where it was, when or how old the recording is. Any fans know more about it? just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 [quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1361743279' post='1990250'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKI8pFqWm0s[/media] If you want to skip the solo the song starts at about 1:20 [/quote]im afraid this sort of vid is why i have some reservations about Mark King.. this is not knocking him, its just a difference in taste... his skills are in no doubt.. but it seems to geared up to show his skills on the bass, which everyone is aware of., the music seems to be rushed also... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatboter Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I know what you mean but sometimes these instrumentals are all about energy and adrenaline... King has proven to be a real groove player if he wants to (people seem to forget how good he is fingerstyle) but I can dig these instrumentals where it's all about "can he pull this off at that speed". If a track like this is followed by Kansas City Milkman, I'm ok with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 and not forgetting he can do that and sing competently at the same time..... http://youtu.be/a_WNEemc1OU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) point taken Wombatboter.. records like this make me realise how good the music was... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MbivB8fxLI[/media] Edited February 25, 2013 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aende Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I have no idea how you play guitar to Mark Kings basslines......really, I don't.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 [quote name='aende' timestamp='1361791049' post='1990745'] I have no idea how you play guitar to Mark Kings basslines......really, I don't.... [/quote]sparcely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Well if you listen to 'Turn it on' as above that will give a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoombung Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 His fingerstyle is very Stanley Clarke. I'm not sure about that funny clicking and clanking sound he makes with his thumb though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) he/his band had a knack of making great pop records when the brit funk was not as popular as it was....his bass playing on this track, although not his sig tone, is awsome melodic playing. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OmzsxY7OaY[/media] Edited February 25, 2013 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliusmonk Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Sorry to revive this thread, just saw this and couldn't resist - it's soundboard and the bass is upfront in the mix.MK is a very solid player, but on that night he was particularly inspired, it seems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQcGfRT4Tt0&sns=em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkgod Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) To me L42 will always be boon, phil, mark and mike, i was shocked when the goulds left but after reading loads on it i understood why and you have to hand it them for sticking to there morals when the potential for them was huge, Phil and boon are great song writer's and penned alot of the early songs infact you can still hear these L42 qualities on phil's solo cd watertight. and also boons tin man and love kills overtime. if you read this mark (as im sure you will ) and to boon phil and mike, can we have another cd as the orig line up getting back to what you know you did best... Britfunk. comon its about time, lets have it. Edited August 6, 2013 by funkgod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 We used to rehearse at the same place L42 did in the early days. After a while we used to get to the rehearsal room quite a bit earlier, just to sit outside and listen to them. Not a huge L42 fan these days but i have a lot of time for them, and Mark seems to be a genuinely nice bloke, not big headed at all (i would be if i had his talent) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus bell Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 [quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1375791884' post='2165616'] To me L42 will always be boon, phil, mark and mike, i was shocked when the goulds left but after reading loads on it i understood why and you have to hand it them for sticking to there morals when the potential for them was huge, Phil and boon are great song writer's and penned alot of the early songs infact you can still hear these L42 qualities on phil's solo cd watertight. and also boons tin man and love kills overtime. if you read this mark (as im sure you will ) and to boon phil and mike, can we have another cd as the orig line up getting back to what you know you did best... Britfunk. comon its about time, lets have it. [/quote]perfect ^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I've come into this thread late, and have not read the rest of the posts. Mark King is among the world's best bass players. He introduced a whole new way to play slap bass. He can also play fingerstyle amazingly. Check out the album tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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