need some advice with cab height / new cab options

[longtimefred]

this a real frustrating one! I have a Matamp 4x10 which is pretty much the perfect cab for me. Never played through one that suited my taste better.

My problem is that i have recently started playing in a new band doing some pretty cool Heavy Metal kind of thing after taking a break from it for a few years and i have the issue that i solved the last time i was doing this kind of thing by having an 8x10. I need my sound up by my head rather than down by my feet! Metal just doesnt work with this setup. Gotta get that air moving!!!

I love my Matamp so much i would love to buy another one to sit on top and that would be problem solved. I cant afford to buy a new one and these coming up second hand just doesnt happen that often. I got to use an Ampeg 8x10 at my last rehearsal and it was a big improvement (bar the ampeg scooped sound which i dont dig) having it up high. i just really dont want another friggin huge 8x10, i just couldnt live with one, or put it in the car on my own!!

So my question is... Does anyone have the perfect solution to getting a cab up off the floor without loosing the arse end of the sound? Or is there another brand of cab that suits the Matamp sound that go quite cheap that i could match it to sit underneath? Maybe a little Orange OBC115 or something? Would one of those be high enough to help the dispersion? Is a 6x10 a good in between?

What are peoples thoughts as its making me loose sleep. (Well not really but getting there)

Cheers bass dudes!!

Will

[charic]

Why not treat your lovely matamp to a nice flightcase and just unpack it then stack it on top when playing. Protection and elevation win win!

[Lee Carter]

I had the same issue with my TC rig. Swapped out the 112 for 212, vertical stack and I now have a 10" pretty much next to my earhole. Problem solved.

Like [url="https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=sFBvCFjI7JFqAM&tbnid=xzK7ZmZj3LbHgM:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.proaudiostar.com%2Ftc-electronic-rs-212-bass-cabinet.html&ei=EmMaUdi_DIuIhQf7nIB4&bvm=bv.42261806,d.ZG4&psig=AFQjCNHYEqVPoorVNx82HTLaz9nrcMKH3A&ust=1360770191270952"]this[/url]

[longtimefred]

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1360683675' post='1974584']
Why not treat your lovely matamp to a nice flightcase and just unpack it then stack it on top when playing. Protection and elevation win win!
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i thought of that, does plonking your cab on an empty box create any unwanted boom or make it sound crap at all? Its just i have never seen anyone else do it to hear what its like. Maybe a good option if people think its fine to do so.


[quote name='Lee Carter' timestamp='1360683833' post='1974591']
I had the same issue with my TC rig. Swapped out the 112 for 212, vertical stack and I now have a 10" pretty much next to my earhole. Problem solved.

Like [url="https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=sFBvCFjI7JFqAM&tbnid=xzK7ZmZj3LbHgM:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.proaudiostar.com%2Ftc-electronic-rs-212-bass-cabinet.html&ei=EmMaUdi_DIuIhQf7nIB4&bvm=bv.42261806,d.ZG4&psig=AFQjCNHYEqVPoorVNx82HTLaz9nrcMKH3A&ust=1360770191270952"]this[/url]
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yeah i have seen those, never tried them though. Also i would have to flog the Matamp which i kinda dont want to do. Good call though. Maybe worth a go to see what they sound like.

[Mr. Foxen]

[quote name='longtimefred' timestamp='1360684043' post='1974600']
i thought of that, does plonking your cab on an empty box create any unwanted boom or make it sound crap at all? Its just i have never seen anyone else do it to hear what its like. Maybe a good option if people think its fine to do so..
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Only downside is hearing more top end can mean you hear the crap sound you are making that you didn't hear before, its a big issue with guitarists.

[charic]

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1360684532' post='1974615']
Only downside is hearing more top end can mean you hear the crap sound you are making that you didn't hear before, its a big issue with guitarists.
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[Lee Carter]

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1360684532' post='1974615']
Only downside is hearing more top end can mean you hear the crap sound you are making that you didn't hear before,[/quote]

Strangely I found that a plus, I could finally hear my "sound", which I thought was too bass heavy. Once up at lug hole level I could hear the amount of treble I had added to compensate and was able to tweak the EQ accordingly.

[longtimefred]

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1360684532' post='1974615']
Only downside is hearing more top end can mean you hear the crap sound you are making that you didn't hear before, its a big issue with guitarists.
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right well im pretty sure im not making a crap sound at the moment and i dont tend to use much top end really so dont think that would be an issue. I have heard what im doing up high before as i have stuck my matamp on top of a peavey 410 that i didnt plug in (stupid 4 ohm cab) and it sounded awesome. just what i wanted. but i didnt want to start lugging a cab around that im not plugging into just to get my cab up where i want it.

If a more clear top end is the only drawback im sure i can live with that!!

[JTUK]

Matapm 610...?? I believe there was one on here recently, ditto Berg NV610.

Not a one man lift, but with tilt back, should be pretty manageable.

Ampeg 610...

Just a thought.

Edited February 12, 2013 by JTUK

[bertbass]

Empty 4x10 and have a hinged back for leads, f/x etc.

[Lozz196]

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1360683675' post='1974584']
Why not treat your lovely matamp to a nice flightcase and just unpack it then stack it on top when playing. Protection and elevation win win!
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This, or get a Matamp 210 and stick it one top if you really need to be pushing more air than you currently are. A stack of 410 & 210 sounds nice.

[longtimefred]

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1360696675' post='1974963']


This, or get a Matamp 210 and stick it one top if you really need to be pushing more air than you currently are. A stack of 410 & 210 sounds nice.
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That sounds fun. I'm guessing they are a custom build.