Geek99 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Been asked to sell a nice one for a friend - prices seem a bit variable and there aren't that many up for sale historically - any one know what a fair price is ? Edit - its actually rosewood and has no damage at all. Has 60s spacing Edit : it's now mine Edited March 10, 2013 by Geek99 Quote
LeftyJ Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 By black, do you mean black blocks and binding or a black pickguard? There aren't many MIJ 75RI's with black blocks and bindings! Quote
Geek99 Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 No , pearl blocks on maple , natural body and black plate Quote
Floyd Pepper Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I know this sounds odd but I did read that not all the 75RI come with 70's pick up spacing so worth checking. IMHO, The pearl block markers and the 70's p/u spacing will push it more towards the higher end of the £700 - £800 bracket. Quote
bubinga5 Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 most 75 jazz reissues from Japan come with 60's spacing, but the non export models from the MIJ sometimes come with 70's spacing.. not always. though..... the non export CIJ usually come with 70's spacing and in various wonderful colour's like lake placid blue etc.. in the 90's they made the non export model in natural.. like the one i have.. dont think they make them anymore,, i could be wrong... Quote
Geek99 Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) Ok that's useful info - I will measure the pickup distance, maybe he got lucky Edited February 16, 2013 by Geek99 Quote
gjones Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) A nice one went on ebay recently for £581, with an [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=1][size=4]Audere preamp[/size],[/size][/font][/color] which I thought was a bit on the low side. Somebody got a good deal. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130847151057?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1438.l2649[/url] Edited February 16, 2013 by gjones Quote
Geek99 Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 Yeah - I bid on that , missed by a few quid What would people expect a standard one to be worth ? Quote
skej21 Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) I dont know if this will help you but I bought my early (1985) non-export MIJ '75 RI (Ash body, rosewood fingerboard with pearloid block inlays, cream binding, black 'plate & pickup/bridge covers) two months ago and got it for £680 (including P&P). Edited February 16, 2013 by skej21 Quote
mcnach Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1361017504' post='1979803'] most 75 jazz reissues from Japan come with 60's spacing, but the non export models from the MIJ sometimes come with 70's spacing.. not always. though..... the non export CIJ usually come with 70's spacing and in various wonderful colour's like lake placid blue etc.. in the 90's they made the non export model in natural.. like the one i have.. dont think they make them anymore,, i could be wrong... [/quote] how do you know what is "non-export"? I bought one that was advertised as "non-export", but have no idea (or care, really, just curious) about it. Mine has the 60s spacing. I paid £650 for it and it had been modified: badass bridge (original gone) and Nordstrand NJ4SE pickups (original, which turned out to be USA pickups) were also included. I don't care about the badass and soon I will replace it. The Nordtrands are great if not very Jazzy, so they stay. I used the original pickups in another bass and they are VERY nice. Quote
skej21 Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1361096063' post='1980867'] how do you know what is "non-export"? I bought one that was advertised as "non-export", but have no idea (or care, really, just curious) about it. Mine has the 60s spacing. I paid £650 for it and it had been modified: badass bridge (original gone) and Nordstrand NJ4SE pickups (original, which turned out to be USA pickups) were also included. I don't care about the badass and soon I will replace it. The Nordtrands are great if not very Jazzy, so they stay. I used the original pickups in another bass and they are VERY nice. [/quote] There are a number of indicators that tell you if it's export or non-export. Quickest is usually running the serial number. As for the original pickups being USA, that's correct as Japanese fenders use US parts (ie pickups, bodies, scratchplates, hardware etc). Quote
Geek99 Posted February 17, 2013 Author Posted February 17, 2013 Do you have a link for that ? Links I found only tell you the year approx Quote
mcnach Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='skej21' timestamp='1361121998' post='1981373'] There are a number of indicators that tell you if it's export or non-export. Quickest is usually running the serial number. As for the original pickups being USA, that's correct as Japanese fenders use US parts (ie pickups, bodies, scratchplates, hardware etc). [/quote] But there isn't anything substantially different between the export/non-export models, right? It's just an "admin decision" by Fender to make certain basses from certain manufacturers available in some areas and not othe rs, isn't it? How does one find out from the serial number? Mine is P001099, CIJ. So I'm guessing that makes it a 2000 model, but other than that, no idea. Quote
Geek99 Posted February 17, 2013 Author Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) Image : [IMG]http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o600/geek99/BCAA548F-5A68-450D-8FC8-D0B6BBD8E5BB-1451-00000159DCFC7C46_zps12fb3009.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o600/geek99/AD10B9AC-F7E5-4923-9F39-494CD6871551-1451-00000159EF5CB89A_zps559b482e.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o600/geek99/E590B21B-DD4A-4CD4-8E6B-3E092486AD62-1451-00000159D48C9E31_zps549a898f.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o600/geek99/6936FC9D-538A-4B15-AA70-EDA14BFE407C-1451-00000159FE976767_zps84864f0e.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o600/geek99/01FCF231-B2BB-49CE-952E-66854CA1130A-1451-00000159F6DA78E7_zps661c86ac.jpg[/IMG] Anyone got any tips on telling export from non ? Pickups quite loud and full but not noisy Edited March 10, 2013 by Geek99 Quote
gjones Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1361134341' post='1981708'] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Anyone got any tips on telling export from non ?[/font][/color] [/quote] Nope! If there is a way I'd like to know though. Your bridge pickup is in the 60s position. Which is par for the course as most Japanese 70s Jazzes are made like that. Quote
Geek99 Posted February 18, 2013 Author Posted February 18, 2013 Yes think I mentioned that in my modified first post. Any tips on what to look for in the neck pocket ? Quote
skej21 Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1361130845' post='1981602'] But there isn't anything substantially different between the export/non-export models, right? It's just an "admin decision" by Fender to make certain basses from certain manufacturers available in some areas and not othe rs, isn't it? How does one find out from the serial number? Mine is P001099, CIJ. So I'm guessing that makes it a 2000 model, but other than that, no idea. [/quote] You're right, there are no substantial differences other than the export instruments are basically the ones that the Japanese chose not to keep, so logic would make you think they kept the best examples for themselves. Personally, I've played a number of export Japanese guitars/basses and they were all very good and were a much higher build quality than the US equivalents, whilst using the same components. I think the non-exports tend to have a slightly better build quality and nicer detailing (nicer wood grains for bodies and necks) which is probably again, a result of the Japanese selection the better specimens to keep for themselves! I'd also guess that yours is a non-export model. Fender only export instruments from Japan if there is not a US equivalent (ie, a '62 RI telecaster) and even then, they restrict the units. This is because they don't want the market flooded with cheaper alternatives that offer the consumer a better instrument (to the US equivalent). Therefore, it's unlikely that a '75 RI Jazz such as yours would be an export model as Fender (at the time it was made) offered the MIA '75 RI as a production model. Hope this helps Edited February 18, 2013 by skej21 Quote
mcnach Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Thank you, that makes a lot of sense... although the theory about selecting better grain instruments for their own market.. well, mine is definitely not the pretties girl in the block edit: mine has much nicer grain on the back than on the front maybe they selected it from the back Edited February 18, 2013 by mcnach Quote
Geek99 Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 According to expert advice about 75s - there was never an export model - all 75s have us pickups Quote
Geek99 Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Thanks - it may well be up for sale shortly Quote
Geek99 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Posted February 21, 2013 It is : http://basschat.co.uk/topic/200328-fs-japan-75-reissue-jazz-with-us-pickups-in-natural-plus-rosewood-with-blocks-perfect-condition/#entry1985841 Quote
Ant Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 how much could i sell a loaded natural body of a japanese 75RI jazz? well gigged so a fair few knocks/missing lacquer its missing the bridge and i think its from the late 80's? Quote
mckendrick Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 [quote name='skej21' timestamp='1361121998' post='1981373'] As for the original pickups being USA, that's correct as Japanese fenders use US parts (ie pickups, bodies, scratchplates, hardware etc). [/quote] They only use the pick-ups, these days - and only on JB75's and those models designated **** - US, They only ever used USA scratchplates and bodies on the very earliest JV's. Hardware is manufactured by Gotoh in Japan. Quote
Geek99 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Big reduction [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/200328-fs-japan-75-reissue-jazz-with-us-pickups-in-natural-plus-rosewood-with-blocks-perfect-condition/#entry1985841"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/200328-fs-japan-75-reissue-jazz-with-us-pickups-in-natural-plus-rosewood-with-blocks-perfect-condition/#entry1985841[/url] Edited March 11, 2013 by Geek99 Quote
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