Mornats Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I was having a pre-GAS peek at some Fenders on DV247 (I quite fancy a Modern Player Tele Bass after playing one at Christmas, or maybe an Overwater Classic J, hmmm, so yeah, pre-GAS look!). But they've got none on their site at the moment, just some Squiers. Anyone know what's up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judo Chop Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 http://www.dawsons.co.uk/fender-tele-bass-modern-player-series-maple-fretboard-butterscotch-blonde Here's one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Cheers, I've found them elsewhere, it's just unusual that DV don't have any listed on their website any more. (Not that I'd order a Fender unseen due to their shoddy QC of course.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judo Chop Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1361109741' post='1981127'] Cheers, I've found them elsewhere, it's just unusual that DV don't have any listed on their website any more. (Not that I'd order a Fender unseen due to their shoddy QC of course.) [/quote] I made that mistake last year, I ordered a Precision from Dawson's website and the truss rod hole was rusted and rounded off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1361109741' post='1981127'] - - - (Not that I'd order a Fender unseen due to their shoddy QC of course.) [/quote] With that attitude why bother even looking at them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1361109923' post='1981129'] With that attitude why bother even looking at them [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1361109923' post='1981129'] With that attitude why bother even looking at them [/quote] Because good ones are good in my experience and worth seeking out too. But I've tried several American Standard Jazz basses that went from superb (best bass I've played) to feeling worse than a Squier when playing it. It's too much of a pain to keep sending basses back to an online store until they send one that came of the factory as it should have. Unless of course you're saying that Fender QC is so shoddy that I shouldn't even bother with the brand hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB26354 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I thought you were talking about used ones when I saw the topic - no worries there as in the basses for sale section there 11 on the first page alone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.I. Joe Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1361112329' post='1981167'] Because good ones are good in my experience and worth seeking out too. But I've tried several American Standard Jazz basses that went from superb (best bass I've played) to feeling worse than a Squier when playing it. It's too much of a pain to keep sending basses back to an online store until they send one that came of the factory as it should have. Unless of course you're saying that Fender QC is so shoddy that I shouldn't even bother with the brand hehe. [/quote] Nothing wrong with a Squier Nats! Squier QC is probably more reliable than Fender actually... Every Indonesian Squier I have tried has been great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzneck Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1361112329' post='1981167'] ...........to feeling worse than a Squier when playing it. [/quote] Best bass I've ever played was my mate the session man's LPB Squier Precision which you've heard on countless 1980s records. Cost him U$75 including a set of La Bellas and a gig bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Ohh yeah, actually that sounded like I was knocking Squiers there! I've played more great Squiers than great Fenders. I've never played a Mexican one that didn't feel a bit meh and I've played rubbish through to superb American ones. All Squiers have been good to brilliant. But anyway... my main point was why aren't DV247 stocking Fenders anymore? Seems a bit strange! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Going by the amount of Fenders up for grabs on here at present - my two included - maybe they can`t handle the competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) I have the Mexican 50's classic Precision, it's a really early one and it is a real beauty, it has a neck profile like no other and is my favourite Precision, IMO it is leagues better than my Classic Vibe Precision although in itself it is an excellent bass. I also own a completely stock Mexican Telecaster which again it an excellent guitar. I know the Squiers are cracking guitars but I have owned ones that just leave me cold and unmoved. I owned a silver series Jazz some years back and just found it [size=4]e[color=#222222][font=Arial]xcruciatingly heavy and uninspiring to play.[/font][/color] [color=#222222][font=Arial]I think there are good and not so good examples of both Squiers and Mexican Fenders, I have also played a few Japanese and USA Fenders that I am glad I don't own.[/font][/color] [color=#222222][font=Arial]If you pick up a guitar and 10 minutes later the salesman is trying to wrench it back out of your hands, it really doesn't matter what it says on the headstock it's probably a keeper[/font][/color][/size] Edited February 17, 2013 by Roger2611 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='Roger2611' timestamp='1361123872' post='1981411'] [font=Arial][size=2]If you pick up a guitar and 10 minutes later the salesman is trying to wrench it back out of your hands, it really doesn't matter what it says on the headstock it's probably a keeper[/size][/font] [/quote] Yep, definitely that's how I ended up with my Overwater. 45 mins after picking it up and I just gave the guy the asking price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Fender operate a 'dealership only' retail model. Perhaps DV247 are no longer part of that dealership and can't get stock any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='Jack Cahalane' timestamp='1361109921' post='1981128'] I made that mistake last year, I ordered a Precision from Dawson's website and the truss rod hole was rusted and rounded off [/quote] You were lucky, man! In my days, when buying a factory new bass, we'd be happy if only the paint had come off in obvious places! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 [quote name='Roger2611' timestamp='1361123872' post='1981411'] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]If you pick up a guitar and 10 minutes later the salesman is trying to wrench it back out of your hands, it really doesn't matter what it says on the headstock it's probably a keeper[/font][/color][/size] [/quote] Hehehe. Sooo true. Exactly why I feel a certain Fender Jazz is coming my way soon. Just must get them to write a formal confirmation that no turned-around psychology was being used in the selling process. best, bert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtroun Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I just asked my mate who is manager of one of DV's branches about this and he simply said 'No more Fender'. I'm guessing this is something to do with the new dealership only model as mentioned above, meaning profit margins and prices are set by Fender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1361109741' post='1981127'] Cheers, I've found them elsewhere, it's just unusual that DV don't have any listed on their website any more. (Not that I'd order a Fender unseen due to their shoddy QC of course.) [/quote] errr Squier Squire ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 [quote name='mtroun' timestamp='1361709686' post='1989505'] I just asked my mate who is manager of one of DV's branches about this and he simply said 'No more Fender'. I'm guessing this is something to do with the new dealership only model as mentioned above, meaning profit margins and prices are set by Fender. [/quote] It's common practice within the music retail industry and has been for decades. Gibson, Marshall, Yamaha... any well known 'premium brand' - they all follow the same model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 So, if I've understood this correctly, DV have spit the dummy out because they've been told to sell (or at least advertise) at a proper mark-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 There may be more to it than that. Fender may be requiring DV to stock a certain portion of their range for example (I heard Line 6 used to do this). Fender may also be twitchy about DV stocking competing brands that would show up how poor some of their output now is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Aye, I remember speaking to Fender a few years ago, when we were possibly interested in their acoustic and electro-acoustic mandolins. They would happily open an account for us, but only if we took more electric guitars than we carry electrics AND basses in total! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 [quote name='hubrad' timestamp='1361717913' post='1989694'] So, if I've understood this correctly, DV have spit the dummy out because they've been told to sell (or at least advertise) at a proper mark-up? [/quote] Possibly. Not being part of DV it can only be conjecture. The dealership agreements have a number of criteria that have to be met, price is just one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Just been talking to a friend who owns a music shop and he was warning me not to put a deposit down on anything from DV. He also said Fender USA have removed all the stock, pulled the plug and closed their account. Sounds like they might be going under, be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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