TimR Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 When you are soloing, ad libbing, busking, or otherwise creating a bass line; how far ahead are you thinking. Are you aiming for the next chord change, or two or more chords ahead? Do you think in terms of whole passages, or do you just play whatever appears under your fingers for the chord you're playing at the time? or something else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Don't think, feeeeeel. [url="http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=McvkSra5JLZGjM&tbnid=vA1O_Y-Zgvj-kM:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgree.jp%2Fokamoto_ryoji%2Fblog%2Fentry%2F588841918&ei=nvEkUdi9GujW0QXYz4CYDw&psig=AFQjCNETUHhWtyzOUO4x8RUB4JrK8A47BQ&ust=1361462046476177"]url[/url] Na, seriously, I'll tend to think to the end of the phrase, but my phrases tend to be little ones. Generally I'll get a pitch in my head relative to the chord I'm playing over/under, so that'll form the basis of my playing - generally the root of a mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I rarely do any soloing, busking or ad-libbing. I rehearse my lines to the point where I can play them without thinking about them at all - thus leaving more time for gurning, posturing and ogling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1361376615' post='1984984'] I rarely do any soloing, busking or ad-libbing. I rehearse my lines to the point where I can play them without thinking about them at all - thus leaving more time for gurning, posturing and ogling. [/quote] Seconded. Plus it's easier to manage after a beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 No idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yepmop Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I knew this thread was coming up last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Rarely solo but I rarely play the same thing twice either live unless the bass part is fairly/very prescribed! Try my best to just stay in the moment, as cheesy as it might sound. I rely on my ears to do most of my work, to know about playing under and over chords using the right chordal notes and accidentals in the right succession and all of that. As much as I'm not over keen on his style of playing, I found Victor Wooten's idea that you're only ever one semitone away from a correct note an a really cool, optimistic way of looking at soloing and improvisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I was rehearsing last week and we were just jamming around in E with the guitars taking turns to solo when suddenly they called out 'Bass solo!' so I played this little pentatonic thing for a few bars, nothing taxing, just 5 notes. They were most impressed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerstodge Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1361376615' post='1984984'] I rarely do any soloing, busking or ad-libbing. I rehearse my lines to the point where I can play them without thinking about them at all - thus leaving more time for gurning, posturing and ogling. [/quote]I couldn't of put it better myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1361376615' post='1984984'] I rarely do any soloing, busking or ad-libbing. I rehearse my lines to the point where I can play them without thinking about them at all - thus leaving more time for gurning, posturing and ogling. [/quote] Same here. In my punk covers band I play the lines that were written, in my originals band we have 3 gtrs and keyboards who do solos etc, best leave the 2 bassists to their keeping steady thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sausage Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 i think to the end of the gig so i can have a few drinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 [quote name='risingson' timestamp='1361392005' post='1985356'] As much as I'm not over keen on his style of playing, I found Victor Wooten's idea that you're only ever one semitone away from a correct note an a really cool, optimistic way of looking at soloing and improvisation. [/quote] You might only be a semitone away from a correct note, but you could be six semitones away from the best note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomBassmonkey Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 For the couple of solos I have, I tend to have a rough framework and then mix up a few notes so that there is some sponteneouty in there. For jamming I tend to find the key and play around it, I have a few set riffs or intervals I try out then expand from there depending on the feel of the tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I've never really thought about it. I tend to just drift off into my own little world and immerse myself in the music when I'm playing. I do have to remind myself to make it look like I haven't though because it makes my natural arrogance level appear much larger than it actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 If I'm coming up with something on the spot I will just go with the flow. I might create some repetition if I make something really catchy come out but unless a part is pre written, I just go where my hands take me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1361411504' post='1985698'] I just go where my hands take me. [/quote] That's got me into so much trouble over the years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1361413822' post='1985713'] That's got me into so much trouble over the years... [/quote] You need to learn to go where your legs take you soon after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkWJenkins Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1361413822' post='1985713'] That's got me into so much trouble over the years... [/quote] +1 couldn't have put it better myself bud. As for soloing/ad libbing etc... I just try not to make myself look like a dick tbh! Got a few raised eyebrows at a jam last week, seemed to enjoy though. Should be fun for the soundcheck jam for the gig in a few weeks =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 What's a solo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapiro Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1361403556' post='1985622'] You might only be a semitone away from a correct note, but you could be six semitones away from the best note. [/quote] Who is to decide what the best note is though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achknalligewelt Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think 'It's a G now, I'll try [i]this[/i] lick,' and I see what happens. I try and have a general idea of what I want to do for the whole piece before I start, though I am notorious for never quite playing the same thing twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 [quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1361428120' post='1985748'] What's a solo? [/quote] It's where you annoy the other musicians so much that they b*gg*r off to the bar and leave you playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myke Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 [quote name='gapiro' timestamp='1361433314' post='1985774'] Who is to decide what the best note is though [/quote] Completely agree. [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1361403556' post='1985622'] You might only be a semitone away from a correct note, but you could be six semitones away from the best note. [/quote] Surely the best note is the one you were hearing in your head and I assume (I know I shouldn't) that you were aiming for a note and then hit the wrong one or maybe just a bit confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Right then. I'll get my coat. I thought this might lead into some discussion about approach notes and passing tones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremen Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm so desperately untutored/tone deaf that I still think in terms of 'wonder what note I'll get if I put my finger HERE' then if it's not the right one I'm skilled at getting away from it before too many people notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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