Hobbayne Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I saw this posted recently. A band member actually unplugged his bass and walked off stage because he didnt want to play a song because he didnt like it? It may be because I,m getting on a bit, but if we are getting paid to do a gig, then the least we can do is to remain on the stage. If people want Mustang Sally and Brown Eyed Girl etc, then its our job to give them what they want. Rant over, As you were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 That was me, it was regular guitar, we weren't getting paid and the other guitarist had it covered. It was for a friends wedding and I paid for van hire out of my own pocket so I was actually £70 down on the evening. There were a number of songs that all the band members didn't need to play on and so didn't. That was mine. It was either get a drink or stand there like a twunt for 3 minutes. Check-your-facts-counter-rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 (edited) Somewhat related factoid - the famous guitar "kachunk" in Creep by Radiohead was Johnny Greenwood's attempt to spoil the song because he thought it was sh*t. Edited February 27, 2013 by Wil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.i.stein Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1362002489' post='1994433'] ...If people want Mustang Sally and Brown Eyed Girl etc, then its our job to give them what they want. [/quote] the right to bear arms has been covered in other threads .. Edited February 27, 2013 by phil.i.stein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 [quote name='Wil' timestamp='1362003022' post='1994443'] Somewhat related factoid - the famous guitar "kachunk" in Creep by Radiohead was Johnny Greenwood's attempt to spoil the song because he thought it was sh*t. [/quote] Oh? Thats the best bit in the song! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopsdabassist Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 *Digs out cd to check for kachunk!* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I refuse to play songs all of the time. If I know it is going to be a train wreck..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.i.stein Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1362003618' post='1994460'] I refuse to play songs all of the time. If I know it is going to be a train wreck..... [/quote] all together .. "well it's a marvellous night for a train wreck .." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1362003618' post='1994460'] I refuse to play songs all of the time. If I know it is going to be a train wreck..... [/quote] Banned lists should be applauded.... and extend that to banned bands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1362003842' post='1994467'] Banned lists should be applauded.... and extend that to banned bands... [/quote] So if there was a thread (again) about what songs should never be allowed to be played, like, ever, it'd be a "Battle Of The Banned"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 [quote name='phil.i.stein' timestamp='1362003731' post='1994466'] all together .. "well it's a marvellous night for a train wreck .." [/quote] LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I sometimes refuse to play the right notes in the right order - does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoNeedsYou Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I'm now cutting out the middleman and not auditioning for anyone who has a song/band I can't stand on the set list. Saves having to stand pulling faces looking pained. But then again, I don't gig alot either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqueslemac Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 When we're trying out ideas for songs, there are often songs we try that someone decides they don't like before we get them to gigging standard. Sometimes Lead Guitar overrules the others by saying "it'll go down well with the punters". Sometimes he's right, but mostly the songs will get the same reaction as most of the others - it's not the ace of the set in other words - and it's just a song he likes. A recent favourite of his is "45" by Gaslight Anthem. I don't mind the song, but the first time we played it, it completely bombed - total silence from the audience. The next time the reaction was muted. I wonder how many times it'll be before Lead Guitar decides it should be dropped. We used to do "Tribute" by Tenacious D, which I hated. It took me months to get it banned. I didn't walk off stage, but often asked Vox if he wanted to play bass on it (which he could, easily, but Lead Guitar refused permission). Eventually it got dropped and I don't recall a single audience member (a quarter of which are old friends) asking for us to bring it back into the set. On stage, I reckon the band should pull as one. Off-stage is where all the bitching and squabbling belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 If anyone in a band really hates a song, to my view the band shouldn`t play it - unless said hating person joined the band after the song was already in the set-list. If the rest of the band are adamant, then make it part of the show. "So-and-so is going to the bar whilst we play the next song, cos we`re all dying of thirst up here, and we can do without them for this one". No need for anyone in the audience to realise it`s an inter-band argumant/dispute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1362040758' post='1994756'] If anyone in a band really hates a song, to my view the band shouldn`t play it - unless said hating person joined the band after the song was already in the set-list. [/quote] Interesting point. I joined a band last year on the basis of the their Set List. Since then we have added quite a few new songs, all of which are fine however I detect a move on the part of the singer and guitarist to move in a musical direction that does not appeal to me. I've already said no to a song which I detest so it'll be interesting to see how things develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqueslemac Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Before I played an instrument I used to think "musical differences" was just a cover for something else. Now I realise just how big a thing it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 [quote name='obbm' timestamp='1362043634' post='1994784'] Interesting point. I joined a band last year on the basis of the their Set List. Since then we have added quite a few new songs, all of which are fine however I detect a move on the part of the singer and guitarist to move in a musical direction that does not appeal to me. I've already said no to a song which I detest so it'll be interesting to see how things develop. [/quote] I'm in a similar position. The band I joined just before Christmas have a strong setlist which is a mix of well known tunes and few fairly unknown but catchy ditties that sound good on first listen. I thought all was going well but... There seems to be a bit of argument surfacing about who likes what tunes and whether the audience will like it. I'll play anything as long as the audience like it. Even if I don't. I hate Summer of '69. Every band I've been in has played it. Badly. The audience don't care. They ARE Bryan Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Surely all of this should be thrashed out in rehearsals? By the time you get on stage you should be prepared to play everything on the set list. I once refused to play a song , the chorus went "I'm not gonna cry , I'm not gonna say goodbye" I was out of the band within the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 We have a right 'sort' of song and after that we pretty much only dump it if we don't like the way we do it. And some of those songs are songs that all of us really wanted to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 This is where open mic/jam sessions can be useful if they have an audience that overlaps with who you normally play to. One non serious party/functions band I was in (based around people at work put together to do in house xmas parties) would work up a few new tunes and then use the open mic as a final acid test. If they went down well there we'd put them in the set, if they bombed twice we'd usually ditch them. That's the benefit of doing covers, massive choice of potential songs out there. Life's too short to struggle along doing stuff you hate, especially if it doesn't fill the dance floor either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I once played in a covers band who did loads of songs that I hated - mostly Eagles stuff. One rehearsal the keyboard player flatly refused to play 'Born to be Wild', which was a shame as it sounded better than half of the existing set. The rest of the band tried talking him round because, well, he had a music degree (and everything) and everyone thought the sun shone out of his arse. I thought about explaining that the songs that he sang live were the ones that bombed as they were 'his favourites' but had never sat well in the set or gone down particularly well. In the end I figured that he had enough people massaging his ego and surmised "You're a cock. Be a cock. I'm off" and left. That sounds harsh but it wasn't a one off and was the straw that broke the camel's back - I'm really a musical prostitute and will play owt for money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 [quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1362002777' post='1994440']It was for a friends wedding and I paid for van hire out of my own pocket so I was actually £70 down on the evening.[/quote] Depends on your perspective really, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 [quote name='Jacqueslemac' timestamp='1362039063' post='1994724'] On stage, I reckon the band should pull as one. Off-stage is where all the bitching and squabbling belongs. [/quote] plus the one. i'm amazed it even needs saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 [quote name='Wil' timestamp='1362003022' post='1994443']Somewhat related factoid - the famous guitar "kachunk" in Creep by Radiohead was Johnny Greenwood's attempt to spoil the song because he thought it was sh*t.[/quote] Johnny Greenwood is so good that even when he deliberately tries to ruin a song he improves it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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