markbunney Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I have an orange terror bass 500 with an orange sp212 cab. For the last few gigs ive been having to set the volume higher and higher to get enough output to keep up with the rest of the band. For the last gig volume was on 12 o clock and gain on 10 o clock for a small pub. Anyone else had this problem? Its only 9 months old and has already been back to orange once with a similar problem. The cab was replaced that time but im begining to suspect its the amp Thanks! Quote
Happy Jack Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Try swopping the valves. Sounds like one of your two pre-amp valves has a problem. Plenty of people on Basschat have swopped out the original very high-gain AX7's (due to [i][b]excessive [/b][/i]volume, ironically) so if you ask nicely there should be someone who can let you have a pair of original fitments. Quote
markbunney Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 thanks for the reponse, I have a couple of spare valves that I bought from Orange, so Ill give them a try. Otherwise its another trip back to Andertons before the warranty runs out! Quote
Mr. Foxen Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 How are you eqing? The baked in mid scoop of the tone stack plus the dodge mid from the isobaric cab might be combining to lose you key cutting frequencies. Plus a 1x12 isn't much to keep up with a band, especially when half the power fed to it is wasted in not making sound. Quote
markbunney Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 EQ is pretty much all at 12 o clock. Cab is 600w 2x12 and it used to be really loud. However for the last few gigs I have been having to set the volume higher and higher to achieve the same level of output. Gigs have been at different venues, but pretty similar size, layout, number of people etc. Quote
Lozz196 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 As it`s still under warranty take it back - Andertons are very good with things like this. If it were out of warranty I`d say swap valves etc, but this may void the warranty, so swap for a new one I`d say. Quote
Happy Jack Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1362062251' post='1995180'] As it`s still under warranty take it back - Andertons are very good with things like this. If it were out of warranty I`d say swap valves etc, but this may void the warranty, so swap for a new one I`d say. [/quote] Good call Lozz, I'd forgotten about the warranty bit. Quote
Mr. Foxen Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 [quote name='markbunney' timestamp='1362061118' post='1995149'] EQ is pretty much all at 12 o clock. Cab is 600w 2x12 and it used to be really loud. However for the last few gigs I have been having to set the volume higher and higher to achieve the same level of output. Gigs have been at different venues, but pretty similar size, layout, number of people etc. [/quote] EQ at 12 is mid scooped, and mid scoop is the recipe for sounds loud alone, disappears in a mix. But if the volume with band is dropping, then something is breaking. Isobaric 2x12 means 1x12 comparative output, since one of the 12s isn't contributing to output. Quote
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