what time sig is this in.?

[bubinga5]

just wondered what time sig you think this is in.. would work it out for my self but i cant play any music at the mo.. thought i would ask the BC experts..?
jump to 1.00 minute in..
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeLmVWzRiY0[/media]

Edited March 17, 2013 by bubinga5

[toneknob]

Nice! 11/8.

[wriggers]

Is it elevenses already?

[essexbasscat]

[i]Oh yes ![/i]

[ezbass]

Who knows what the 'verse' is in, it's probably jumping from something standard like 4/4 for one bar then to something like 5/4 for another. To be clear I'm not saying that's what it does, but it does sound compound. The 'chorus' just sounds like a straight 6/8 shuffle. All I know is that it's good to know someone else is listening to PSP too. They've gone a bit quiet recently (probably due to Pino and Si Phillips' session demands) but I hope they'll be back with more soon.

[phlebas]

I make the verse a bar of 15/8 followed by a bar of 7/8.

IE:
1e+a 2e+a 3e+a 4e+a 1e+a 2e+a 3e+a 4e
1e+a 2e+a 3e+a 4e

At least, I managed to count along with it that way...

[bobbass4k]

Time signatures are such a subjective thing when it comes down to it, you can even see it in this video, Pino's tapping his foot in quarters and the keyboardist (don't know his name,I'm impressed I recognized Pino...) is tapping his foot along in eights, so they're both counting it differently.

Personally I'd count it (the first bit at least) as 3 bars of 5/8 and a bar of 7/8, but that's equivalent to 2 bars of 11/8, or a bar of 15/8 and a bar of 7/8, or you could write it out as a single bar of 11/4. Personally I don't like time signatures bigger than 7/4, I think they're unwieldy, so that colours my hearing of time sigs, this could very will have been written as 11/4, but I prefer to break it down as w bars of 5.8 and a bar of 7/8. Music theory probably dictates which one is correct, but I think as long as it works for you, who's to say it's wrong?

[Lowender]

2 bars of four, one bar of 3.

[ubassman]

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1364019940' post='2020940']
2 bars of four, one bar of 3.
[/quote]

+1 on that .... keep it simple!! ..the pulse and vibe is over three bars . Simple as that.

Behind the melody count and feel 4/4 first bar, 4/4 again in 2nd bar , then a bar of 3/4, ...much easier than thinking of the phrase and counting 11 beats ( I challenge anyone to get a groove counting 11s )! Really enjoyed listening to Pino - thanks for the post !

[bobbass4k]

[quote name='ubassman' timestamp='1364022212' post='2020943']
I challenge anyone to get a groove counting 11s
[/quote]

Challenge accepted:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox9SfroL0uQ[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI-us49j5-o[/media]

Of course groove is subjective, but for me those both have 11/8 sections that are really easy to lock into and groove along to.

[ubassman]

Thanks for that ! ( ...I kind of deserved that didn't I ! )

Agreed, both are easy to lock into and groove along to. Interesting though that what I hear particularly in the second clip is 5 whole beats and a quaver tagged onto the end. For me thats the vibe of the music i.e. "1,2,3,4,5 & " ( the keyboard leads the way ) rather than counting 11 quick quavers in each bar .

With the original PSP post I personally find that I can follow the groove really quickly feeling two easy bars of 4/4 with a 3/4 bar thrown in. For me much easier than counting 11/4 - I think as long as you feel the groove it probably doesn't matter how you do it !

[toneknob]

[quote name='ubassman' timestamp='1364022212' post='2020943']
I challenge anyone to get a groove counting 11s
[/quote]

Be careful what you wish for

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OI9ZGTO9eVc#t=762s"]http://www.youtube.c...ZGTO9eVc#t=762s[/url]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9-fJQvVFG4g#t=104s

Edited March 23, 2013 by toneknob

[toneknob]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIMOJNxVIw8