merello Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Naked admiration thread for no other reason than this hallowed portal allows me to do so. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjmOO7oRQT0[/media] there are bits in this song that make me glad to enjoy and try and play the bass. On a related note, I have a young man doing a gig in the school where I work who is playing and singing 'I don't need no doctor" this week. Privilege to accompany him. Quote
Dingus Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Pino's bass playing is , as always , peerless , but John Mayer's barnet looks like it needs some attention . I think he is being blinded by his fringe . Edited March 23, 2013 by Dingus Quote
lou24d53 Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Havin' a few beers and was searching thru some old music DVD's earlier, put on the Live Aid doovde and there he was with Mr Mullet himself, Paul Young... Fast forward an hour or so, then The Who came on...Pino's an awesome, awesome player, but he cannae lace the Ox's boots in my opinion...to be fair, not many can... Quote
SpaceChick Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Not a fan of the track if I'm honest, but Pino is a legend Quote
mcnach Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 [quote name='lou24d53' timestamp='1364074496' post='2021735'] Havin' a few beers and was searching thru some old music DVD's earlier, put on the Live Aid doovde and there he was with Mr Mullet himself, Paul Young... Fast forward an hour or so, then The Who came on...Pino's an awesome, awesome player, but he cannae lace the Ox's boots in my opinion...to be fair, not many can... [/quote] Never got Entwistle. It sounds good in context and all, but it never spoke to me. However Pino has such a "finesse",,, I don't know how to explain it. It appeals to me. I would not say that one is better than the other, 'though. That's for end of year filler "list of 100 best players" in magazines Quote
Cosmo Valdemar Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Great player, totally wrong for The Who. Quote
andytoad Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) 'Esus that was good, I then found myself following the youtube suggestions... John Mayer and bb king! Edited March 23, 2013 by andytoad Quote
grahamd Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Pino and Steve Jordan killing with Mayer (post haircut) http://youtu.be/5ahbb9rzMDg Quote
gjones Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 This version is possibly even better? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-YDNXggCYQ Quote
Higgie Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 For me, he is the greatest. There is just a certain something about his playing that grabs my attention immediately, and never gets boring to listen to. Quote
andyonbass Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='andytoad' timestamp='1364081472' post='2021841'] 'Esus that was good, I then found myself following the youtube suggestions... John Mayer and bb king! [/quote] If that was the Hollywood Bowl performance,check out the finale where Mayer, (as good as he is) looks on in awe at Derek Trucks solo. (sorry for the hijack ) [Edit] Here [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS0NHlWgi5w[/media] Quote
visog Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) OK I'll bite... for some controversy. I think he's bland. I initially enjoyed his chorus fretless in the '80s (which was a pretty strong 'Jaco for masses' cloning) but it became over-worked. And I recall some Tube performances where he was sitting in - perhaps with Jools and he was terrible. So what am I missing here with Pino - who does seem like a nice humble bloke when interviewed? (Admitting a personal bias for bass lines that jump-out in some way - tone, notes, form... don't do meek bass.) Edited January 25, 2014 by visog Quote
EssentialTension Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='lou24d53' timestamp='1364074496' post='2021735'] ... Pino's an awesome, awesome player, but he cannae lace the Ox's boots in my opinion ... [/quote] Never got Entwistle or his, IMO, terrible terrible tone. Quote
Kirky Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Pino's work with John Mayer and Steve Jordan is fantastic - he never overplays, and his timing is absolutely on the button. Their version of I Got a Woman is a great example. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RckfbOm84Qc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RckfbOm84Qc[/url] Quote
Kiwi Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1364078988' post='2021806'] Great player, totally wrong for The Who.[/quote] To be fair to Pino, he wasn't chosen because he sounded like Entwhistle, he was chosen because he was available and had the skills and chops to learn an entire show with four days notice. His fretless lines are inspirational and sublime. His motown inspired playing with Usher etc. is less inspirational for me. But you know, he's gotta earn a crust and fair play to him for being so versatile and making people take notice regardless of the genre. Quote
Kirky Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 And wow, that Derek Trucks solo is beautiful, posted further up. Quote
whynot Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1364115512' post='2021948'] Never got Entwistle or his, IMO, terrible terrible tone. [/quote] It was right for The Who. I've got a couple of tickets for the o2 gig this June and sitting on the Pino side. Kind of a 40th anniversary for me as my first gig was seeing the Who in 1973 at a very, very young age and being the reason why I wanted to play an instrument. Quote
mentalextra Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1364117315' post='2021967'] To be fair to Pino, he wasn't chosen because he sounded like Entwhistle, he was chosen because he was available and had the skills and chops to learn an entire show with four days notice. His fretless lines are inspirational and sublime. His motown inspired playing with Usher etc. is less inspirational for me. But you know, he's gotta earn a crust and fair play to him for being so versatile and making people take notice regardless of the genre. [/quote] I think the heavily chorused 80s sound is a cross he has to bare. People forget he is a jobbing musician and although many think money is vulgar, you have to pay the bills! Quote
EssentialTension Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) [quote name='whynot' timestamp='1364120409' post='2021994'] It was right for The Who. I've got a couple of tickets for the o2 gig this June and sitting on the Pino side. Kind of a 40th anniversary for me as my first gig was seeing the Who in 1973 at a very, very young age and being the reason why I wanted to play an instrument. [/quote] Well, you're correct it was The Who with Entwistle and I too saw them with him several times in early 70s. However, when I saw them with Palladino a few years back I was much happier with the bass. YMMV. I realise 99% of people will disagree with me. Edited March 24, 2013 by EssentialTension Quote
Japhet Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 To me, Pino is always tasteful and sympathetic to whoever he plays with. Never overdoes it but comes out with some fabulous stuff at the same time. Apart from the dosh, I can't think of a single reason why he would want to be in The Who. There, I've said it. Also, check out Derek Trucks with Susan Tedeschi (Mrs. Trucks) in the Tedeschi Trucks Band or with Bela Fleck or Warren Haynes and Govt. Mule. I've never heard a slide player with so much expression. Fantastic. Quote
JTUK Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1364115512' post='2021948'] Never got Entwistle or his, IMO, terrible terrible tone. [/quote] Have to agree...... pretty much unlistenable on most levels.. but...the Who worked as a unit, somehow Quote
louisthebass Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='Japhet' timestamp='1364123623' post='2022038'] To me, Pino is always tasteful and sympathetic to whoever he plays with. Never overdoes it but comes out with some fabulous stuff at the same time. Apart from the dosh [/quote] Truth . Quote
ezbass Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1364121359' post='2022007'] Well, you're correct it was The Who with Entwistle and I too saw them with him several times in early 70s. However, when I saw them with Palladino a few years back I was much happier with the bass. YMMV. I realise 99% of people will disagree with me. [/quote]I absolutely love the sound JE got around the time of Quadrophenia, but the tone he had from the Buzzard and Ashdown rig was a nasty assault on my lug holes in later years. Pino is probably my most favourite player of all, he does just what's needed. Being the bass player in The Who isn't about replacing JE, who would want to have to replicate every note he played in that unique style and then have the anoraks point out every mistake? Better to be your own man, and given Pino already had a fearsome reputation, why would you want to be someone else (unless your in a specific tribute band of course). Back to the OT man himself, I was talking to some friends about how I've seen both Bakithi Kumalo and Alpnonso Johnson on TV recently recreating the lines they played on Graceland and Face Value respectively, their fretless intonation was woeful! However, when Pino was talking about the Wherever I Lay My Hat line and then playing it on the One Show (without any effects) it was spot on. His jazz stuff with PSP is a tour de force, yet more fretless (mostly). Edited March 24, 2013 by ezbass Quote
JamesBass Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Pino is simply sublime, he's got groove, feel and appreciation for everything he does however for me, he's just not right in The Who, you can NEVER get close to John Entwistle for that style of music, tone and feel wise he'll trounce Pino in John's genre, Pino is without doubt the MUCH MUCH MUCH better bassist in an all round music environment apart from Rock. Has anyone else thought that Pino also looks like he's one of those Aliens from Men in Black? Anyone else see what I'm seeing? Quote
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