Monckyman Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) I placed an ad for a double bass in the relevant section last week.Now it isn't there. Is there a Moderator who can tell me why that is? I may be a little slow on the uptake and the rules have changed but if an ad is removed, surely informing me would have been polite? Answers on a postcard to befuddled and fed up. Edit. Just seen the new ad charges. So that's cheap used items for sale to other BCers out the window as the place is now run for profit so why should anyone do cheap rates if they're paying for the ad? Nail number two. Edited March 24, 2013 by Monckyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Are you referring to the 'subscription' fee to place ads? If so, I don't think it's so the site can make a profit, it's just to help with the upkeep, since the site used to rely solely on donations. I don't think £20 for a year of unlimited ads is unreasonable at all though, especially compared to eBay's costs! You can still sell items under £50 for free as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 In a Utopian pipe dream 26,100 members at £20 per head must be a bit of profit Actually 5000 members paying £20 wouldn't be a bad return would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1364134695' post='2022238'] ...5000 members paying £20 wouldn't be a bad return would it? [/quote] No, but I seriously doubt it's even close to that number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Right. You've written 1355 posts since April 5th, 2011, and you're complaining about a £20 (alternatively £7 for one ad, or nothing for an item below £50) to keep an expensive site up and running? Has the site not given you anything during those years? Were your 1355 posts there just for helping BC to attain a higher level of readworthiness? I think you have some rethinking to do. best, bert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 £20 is less than the charges of one £200 instrument on eBay. For me the £20 works out about £2 a sale over a year and it all goes toward keeping this facility available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='Monckyman' timestamp='1364133088' post='2022214'] I placed an ad for a double bass in the relevant section last week. Now it isn't there.[/quote] Fair comment, Dave - if the ad was placed before the new charges applied, it should still be there. If you placed the ad after the charges applied you would have been directed to a payment page. Maybe it was an error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1364136894' post='2022289'] No, but I seriously doubt it's even close to that number. [/quote] Tongue in cheek? I haven't caused any trouble for over a week, not even at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1364138511' post='2022311'] Tongue in cheek? I haven't caused any trouble for over a week, not even at home [/quote] Oh really? I'll ask mrs karlfer about that next time I see her... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1364138511' post='2022311'] I haven't caused any trouble for over a week, not even at home [/quote] Is that out of personal choice or just the conditions of your ASBO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1364139773' post='2022350'] Oh really? I'll ask mrs karlfer about that next time I see her... [/quote] Tonight she'll be swinging her handbag down the docks. Passable likeness to Baldrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1364139805' post='2022351'] Is that out of personal choice or just the conditions of your ASBO? [/quote] I had no access for 4 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1364142904' post='2022406'] I had no access for 4 days [/quote] LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyquipment Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Sell the double bass in pieces 50 quid for the neck... 50 quid for the bridge... 50 quid for the body... 50 quid for the machine heads... Lol Then again...maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='tonyquipment' timestamp='1364143227' post='2022414'] Sell the double bass in pieces... [/quote] That may not be a bad idea for an electric bass at the right, er... 'price point'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigster Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Come to this thread late. It's a tough one but we're all in a market together - I had a whinge about paying fees a few weeks back, but I increasingly appreciate this pov - I personally HATE the idea of market, per se, it's the root of all evil today (thanks P. Floyd), but 'market' works on all levels, ie. realistically, why should someone provide a service for free if they offer expertise and time? I'm prepared to pay someone for their time and to do what[i] I[/i] can't do, same as I expect people to pay me the going rate for my time (and expertise...what little I have ) (ha ha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Made a reply and the self censored it. Saves the mods the trouble after lasts nights deletion. Maybe I'm just getting a bit jaded with this whole forum, which seems to divide its attention between puerile threads about royal arses or pinos underpants and how they shape his tone. Now we have to pay for ads of any worth. Ok. Time for a rethink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='Monckyman' timestamp='1364150253' post='2022555'] Made a reply and the self censored it. Saves the mods the trouble after lasts nights deletion. Maybe I'm just getting a bit jaded with this whole forum, which seems to divide its attention between puerile threads about royal arses or pinos underpants and how they shape his tone. Now we have to pay for ads of any worth. Ok. Time for a rethink [/quote] If you didn't go through the payment gateway when you posted then the ad would have auto-deleted (unless it was priced under £50) Cheers ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 So I had an ad that was placed BEFORE the charges came in removed, yet other people still have theirs up? Favouritism from the mods? Seems f***ing shady to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yep got it. Thanks Ped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='Ant' timestamp='1364151666' post='2022585'] So I had an ad that was placed BEFORE the charges came in removed, yet other people still have theirs up? Favouritism from the mods? Seems f***ing shady to me [/quote] Nope, all existing ads are fine until the items are all sold. It's only rolled out for new items. If memory serves me correctly you listed over £800 worth of pedals as £50. I see now your listing is correct, which is fine. Any other questions, PM the mod of the sales area as I'm not specifically up on individual listings.. ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='Monckyman' timestamp='1364151713' post='2022586'] Yep got it. Thanks Ped. [/quote] No worries, we're still refining the system and making mini changes here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I don't mind paying for ads, but posts shouldn't "just disappear". There should be a notification that a deletion has occurred. An automatic deletion could easily put out an automatic reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1364152560' post='2022599'] I don't mind paying for ads, but posts shouldn't "just disappear". There should be a notification that a deletion has occurred. An automatic deletion could easily put out an automatic reason. [/quote] Just to clarify - NOTHING is deleted - if you don't pay, or have no £20 subscription, nothing is POSTED. Deletions only happen when users post expensive stuff for £0 in which case the thread is automatically hidden whilst we PM the user, as in some cases it's an honest mistake. At least we TRY to PM everyone and discuss but perhaps not 100% of the time, we're only human. If one reads the rules and plays fair, there's no problem. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I got my new thread deleted because I didn't read up on the new stuff so then I went to make another but just decided to stop being lazy and bumped my old thread... Which was then deleted even though it hadn't broken any forum rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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