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Volume drop in pedal effects loop


Kev
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*Headache*, okay, so here is a development. I currently have 3 pedals that i wish to use in the Wonderlove's effect loop. Here is a result of testing all combinations of all them:

Wonderlove [OC-2 > Bottle Rocket] = Volume drop
Wonderlove [OC-2 > Bottle Rocket > Zoom Ultra Fuzz] = no issues (!)
Wonderlove [Bottle Rocket] = Volume Drop

Changing the order of effects does not change. So surely there [i]must[/i] be some sort of phase issue that has been corrected by adding the Ultra Fuzz to the chain (i only picked the ultra fuzz up on saturday). I am taking delivery of a Team Awesome fuzz machine tomorrow, can i expect this addition to mess it up again?

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What about with the OC-2 on it's own? I wonder if it's cos the bottle rocket is true bypass where the other pedals have buffers. I know you said it wasn't an issue of the order of the pedals, but when you have the bottle rocket before the OC-2, so there's always a buffer at the end of the loop, do you get the same problem?

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I'll have a tinkle a bit later, but i have added a Team Awesome Fuzz Machine to that loop at the end now (True Bypass) and Mesa works without issues. Fairly sure i did try Mesa > OC-2 and the volume drop was present.

Edit, works fine with OC-2 after the Mesa, must have not tried that combo as it's not one i would ever use. Does look like a buffered bypass after the mesa may be resolving, rather than phase. Maybe. Point is at least in the current layout it is working. Cheers Tom.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Sorry to bump this, but now experiencing the same issue with my Big Green Pi and its seems the volume drop is resolved with a buffer pedal [i]after [/i][size=4]the pedal in the loop.[/size]
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[size=4]Now, unlike the Mesa, the green pi has enough gain available to crank the volume to make up for the volume loss so i can have the OC-2 at the [/size]beginning[size=4] of the chain where it should be. Is the volume loss the only thing i have to worry about? I cannot hear a tonal difference or any other problems but id like to make sure before i go about using and recording with it only to find i am not getting the best sound i can.[/size]

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