April/May Mix Competition - VOTING COMPLETE!

[ironside1966]

Thank you to everyone who commented on my mix (mix G) some good comments and I have taken them onboard.

[51m0n]

To be honest chaps I think I'm going to have to duck out of this one, just for a month, because I'm just completely snowed right now, what with work commitments, and band stuff, kids, allotment, life, mixing other stuff etc etc - I cant see me being able to enter this one, let alone run it

Sorry....

[MiltyG565]

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1371032138' post='2108779']
To be honest chaps I think I'm going to have to duck out of this one, just for a month, because I'm just completely snowed right now, what with work commitments, and band stuff, kids, allotment, life, mixing other stuff etc etc - I cant see me being able to enter this one, let alone run it

Sorry....
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I think in that case, the running of the comp this month should be deferred to the next most capable and reliable member - Skol

[Skol303]

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1371033552' post='2108805']I think in that case, the running of the comp this month should be deferred to the next most capable and reliable member - Skol [/quote]

Damn your flattery, Milty!

To be honest I'd already volunteered to compile and upload everyone's mixes this time round, so I'm happy to step up and run the next mix-off in place of Si. He deserves a well-earned break anyway!

I know Si and others are keen to try an EDM (electronic dance music) mix...so I suggest we put that off till maybe next time, giving Si the chance to take part.

Reggae seems to be the next favourite genre in line. I'm particularly keen on using Basschat members' mix stems where possible - and I notice that xgsjx posted a link to some earlier. So I'll check them out and set up a new thread with either those stems or others ASAP.

If anybody objects to a reggae track for the next one then speak now or forever hold your... well, you know the rest

[MiltyG565]

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1371060799' post='2109369']
Damn your flattery, Milty!

To be honest I'd already volunteered to compile and upload everyone's mixes this time round, so I'm happy to step up and run the next mix-off in place of Si. He deserves a well-earned break anyway!

I know Si and others are keen to try an EDM (electronic dance music) mix...so I suggest we put that off till maybe next time, giving Si the chance to take part.

Reggae seems to be the next favourite genre in line. I'm particularly keen on using Basschat members' mix stems where possible - and I notice that xgsjx posted a link to some earlier. So I'll check them out and set up a new thread with either those stems or others ASAP.

If anybody objects to a reggae track for the next one then speak now or forever hold your... well, you know the rest
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I'm not into reggae, but then I'm not into country or EDM either, so keep 'er like, b'jaysus!

[triviul]

Hello again, all,

As promised, I've had a listen to the mixes, so here's some feedback. Let me start by addressing Ironside1966 first...

[b]Mix G: Ironside1966[/b]

You've done a pretty good job with the overall tonality here, which instantly gives this mix a sense of rightness for me. It's maybe still a little on the bright side for me, and could perhaps have a decibel or so more going on in the 300-600Hz octave to give it a touch more warmth, but those are pretty small things. You also clearly have a pretty solid grasp of balancing, because everything seems to be in a very sensible place level-wise, and the mix also translates well to small speakers. I like the effects use in general too, which uses enough to provide warmth, width, and space, but without swamping everything or distancing the lead vocal. Enough of the good stuff, though... Seriously, I'm about to go into detail about various things I think you could improve on this mix, but I don't want to take away from the fact that you've already done a lot right!

This multitrack was already processed a fair bit during the recording process, I think, but that hasn't stopped you giving it the heave-ho with your compression here, by the sounds of things! However, I'm not sure that your approach is necessarily in the best interests of the style of music your working with here. It's much more of a 'heavy rock' sound to me, especially in the buss compression -- from the very opening 'upbeat-downbeat' the compression is kicking like mule, and although I'm as much a fan of heavy compression as anyone it feels out of character for a laid-back down-home country song like this.

I also wonder whether heavy compression of the acoustic guitars is overemphasising the picking noise, especially in the left-channel rhythm part. If you're compressing in search of serious sustain from the acoustic guitars, I think a parallel-compression approach would probably give better results, as long as you went with an attack time fast enough to avoid transients breaking through in the parallel channel. Alternatively, you could also try something like the SPL transient designer, which would enable you to control the attack and sustain in a more level-independent manner -- that thing's great on acoustics.

I think the transient enhancement from your compression may also be contributing to my feeling that the overall mix tonality is a bit fatiguing, especially if I'm listening loud. Clearly the general brightness has something to do with this (I'd probably dip a decibel at 4.5kHz and another decibel or two with a high shelf in the top octave), but I think the HF transients from the guitars aren't helping here either, especially as it seems that you've given those instruments a fair bit of HF emphasis with your EQ too.

On a general level, I wonder whether you might be EQ'ing a bit too much in solo mode? Using EQ at the mix is mostly about removing conflict between different instruments, rather than enhancing the sounds, so it's important that you evaluate all your EQ moves within a mix context so that you can factor in frequency masking between the instruments. In your mix it's the 4-6kHz zone that feels like its still in conflict, with the acoustic guitars, fiddles, snare, and vocals all battling it out there a bit too much. To be honest, I'd probably sacrifice a bit of presence on the snare and acoustic guitars to keep the vocal, and the mix as a whole, smoother and clearer. The kick seems quite clicky in your mix too (another hard rock refugee?), and I'm not sure it's necessary to have that much definition in a song like this -- just let it gently support the bass rhythms at the low end and in the low midrange, without that HF stuff bringing it out of its background role.

You could always give the snare more real 500Hz-1kHz midrange to keep its solidity in the balance, as there's not too much competing in that zone at the moment, and acoustic styles can often afford to have a bit more girth in that department than overdriven electric bands -- especially in this case given that the main close mic is pretty beefy in its raw state, and it's usually not a bad assumption to make in acoustic styles that the parts are recorded pretty much the way the producer wanted them to sound in the mix. Also, did you invert the polarity of the undersnare mic? It's the wrong polarity by default, and it really makes a difference to the sound.

I like your general panning and stereo width decisions, but with one exception: the fiddle solo. The wide panning is causing this line to really drop in mono -- they sound a million miles away compared with the vocals -- and it also sounds a little odd in stereo having a solo instrument that far off to the side to me. A lot of panning is about personal taste, of course, but I think there's a strong argument for a slightly more moderate stance in this instance.

The final thing is that you've fallen foul of a problem that a lot of people who attempt this particular multitrack come up against: the unevenness of the upright bass part. This is primarily on account of a powerful low-frequency resonance that's been captured in the recording, and which, for example, causes the 'D' note of the choruses to overpower the root note 'A', which feels strange musically. It also means that most people either balance the bass so that the resonance is at the right level for the track, in which case the rest of the bass notes sound anaemic, or they set the level of the non-resonant notes to the right level for the track, at which point the resonant note eats the mix for breakfast!

The solution, however, is pretty simple. Try this: a peaking filter with a Q value of around 3, set to cut 6dB at 76Hz. That seems to even things out a bit when applied over your full mix, but the exact gain setting may need adjusting if you apply it on your bass channel. Then, when you've rebalanced the resonance frequency to get a smooth line, you should be able to boost with a gentler low shelf at 100Hz or so to increase the bass's general low-frequency weight, which feels like it needs a bit of help once the resonance has been factored out of the equation. I'd probably give that 2-3dB, but it's up to you.

Again, though, please take all my nitpicking in a positive spirit, because it's obvious to me that you already have some great mixing instincts that were justifiably recognised in the voting. Thanks for letting everyone listen to your work!

[triviul]

Next up, our other joint winner...

[b]Mix E: Moonbass[/b]

A closer and more naturalistic interpretation here, but no less successful for that! The overall tonality of the mix felt a bit muffled on the whole, so I found myself pretty quickly adding 3dB of shelving boost across the top two octaves while listening. I like the way you've really featured the vocal, and kept the rhythm and harmony parts well out of the way of it so that we can really appreciate its expression. The balance in general is very respectable in fact, which implies you've already had some practice in this mixing game! The cymbals are particularly nice here too, although maybe just a touch over-balanced, and the fiddle fills have a nice rich timbre to them that appeals to me a lot.

Right, now on to the niggles... First off, to avoid repeating things I've already said about Ironside1966's, the same bass-resonance and mono-compatibility issues I identified there also affect your mix. Beyond that, I mentioned that you've left plenty of room for your vocals by going easy on the harmony instruments, and while that's a good thing in general, it does mean that your mix does feel like it lacks a bit of midrange sustain, width, and harmonic warmth, despite the LF bias of the overall mix timbre. I'd suggest fading up the guitars and piano a bit more, and then reclaiming space for the vocal with tactical EQ cuts instead, because I think you could afford to have more of the body of the guitar/piano tone in there without overloading the vocal's midrange and presence zones. I can't tell you exactly what frequencies to cut, but the trick is this: fade up the guitars and pianos too loud in the mix (so it's easier to hear their frequency-masking effects), and then try cutting them with a Q=1 peak, looking for the frequency range that unveils the vocal details more, allowing it to be most upfront. Once you've cut a few decibels in that frequency region, you can then rebalance the guitars and piano back to more appropriate fader levels, which should hopefully be a little higher than before.

While I have no problem with the generally drier approach you've taken, I do wonder whether you might be able to do more with your effects to fill out the texture, without making it seem any more 'reverby'. In particular I think I'd look into using stereo tempo-delay on several of the tracks here -- just a single-tap 1/4-note patch at -15dB works surprisingly well over the whole mix for me, and would work even better with per-track send settings and a bit of send-level automation. I'd also recommend investigating plate reverb patches if you've not already, because (when assertively EQ'd) these can melt into a mix without adding excessive spatial character and deliver tons of sustain and richness, especially with things like acoustic guitars and piano.

Although I like the drums presentation in general, again I wonder whether you've taken things in a bit too much of a rock direction still -- the kick and snare both feel overly reliant on a sharp and rather aggressive initial spike, where it feels like their pure solidity in the lows and mids respectively would be more than enough to keep them well anchored in the balance. The snare also feels rather choked, as if you're pounding it with a medium-attack, medium-release compressor for bite.

Hope some of that helps, and as with Ironside1966's mix, I don't want to give the impression of being overly critical, because you've a lot of very sensible decisions and have every right to be proud of what you've already achieved. Thanks for posting the mix for us all to hear!

[triviul]

And now, given that I listened to all the mixes anyway, here are also a few brief comments on the others, so that hopefully no-one feels they been left empty-handed!

[b]Mix A: Dad3353[/b]

Feels like there's a bit too much midrange in the mix, both around 350Hz and 1.5kHz -- a decibel of so cut in those spots makes it feel better balanced across the spectrum. The vocal gets recessed a bit by this, though, and already feels too far back in the balance for a song like this. Seems a slightly odd choice of vocal reverb to me -- rather artificial, in a way that manages to distract from the vocal while not really gluing it to the track. If you're after blend, I'd suggest reducing the decay time and going for a more natural room-like character. Other than that I like a lot of the sound here, and the way the instruments are balanced to make up the ensemble. More piano perhaps? That bass resonance needs sorting out though. The kick feels a bit too upfront, especially compared with the snare, which is a lot further back. There's an argument for some kick reverb/ambience on a track like this for that reason.

[b]Mix B: Lurksalot[/b]

You've got some good clarity going on here, but this is partly by virtue of rather a stark presentation which is short on blend -- it sounds rather too much like a collection of close-miked overdubs, instead of a believable ensemble. I'd get some short reverb on the go at the very leasts to glue the tracks together, and allow more of the overhead mics into the balance to make the drums feel more coherent. A higher level of rhythm guitars and piano might also help -- just keep an eye on the EQ for those tracks so you don't lose too much of the clarity you've already got. I wonder whether you've tried to address the bass resonance, but it still needs a bit more work I think, as well as slightly firmer compression to keep the overall level a bit more consistent.

[b]Mix C: 51m0n[/b]

Another mix that feels slightly overcompressed on the drums, guitars, and mix buss, but you have managed to deliver a lovely warmth and sustain with this and your effects that provides a good deal of consolation! The vocal sound in particular is great -- very smooth and stable, nicely taming the upper midrange nasality that is one of the less nice elements of the singer's raw tone. Nice drum presentation in general, with great cymbals -- not too much HF, but plenty of richness nonetheless. Bass rather nicely controlled, with little sign of the resonance issue -- well done on that one!

[b]Mix D: Cheddatom[/b]

This mix feels rather too crispy in the top octave for me, and quickly starts to get abrasive at high volumes. I'd take 3dB out up there probably. I think you may have done it to balance the low end, where you've balanced the bass according to the non-resonant notes, so the resonance is making an undue impact when it occurs. Either way, an imbalance in the top octave of the frequency spectrum is very easy to get used to, and can only be headed off by taking regular breaks and referencing your work against commercial mixes. As with Ironside1966's mix, I think you're overcooking the HF and and transients on the acoustic guitars, which is also pushing the lead vocal a bit too far back for me in the balance -- and it's not particularly loud as it is. It sounds like you're boosting your cymbals around 5kHz, and I'm not sure that's helping either -- and it also gives them a slightly trashy tone that seems out of character in this style.

[b]Mix F: Twigman[/b]

Another nice rich-sounding vocal, although I'd still de-ess it a bit more firmly and back off the reverb a little -- that effect feels too audible in general (partly because it's quite bright -- natural reverb tends to be duller than that) and also rather unnatural (I'd go for something with more of an acoustic character), which dates the production undesirably I think. The same kind of reverb on the side-stick is also taking us back to the 80s a bit much for my liking. The cymbals are pumping a fair deal, which holds some appeal to me, but it feels a bit too deep and obvious for something like this song. You've got nice mono-compatibility here despite a decent sense of stereo width, and small-speaker translation is also good.


Hope that's of some help. Still five or so to go, so stay tuned for more tomorrow...

Edited June 12, 2013 by triviul

[Twigman]

[quote name='triviul' timestamp='1371071441' post='2109570']
is also taking us back to the 80s a bit much for my liking.
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Hardly surprising considering where I've come from....80s indie band

....thanks for the write up.

[lurksalot]

Cheers Mike , I understand what you say , many thanks, It is soooo difficult to remember as the minute you change one thing it seems to impact everything else

[MiltyG565]

[quote name='triviul' timestamp='1371071441' post='2109570']
And now, given that I listened to all the mixes anyway, here are also a few brief comments on the others, so that hopefully no-one feels they been left empty-handed!

Hope that's of some help. Still five or so to go, so stay tuned for more tomorrow...
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Wow! What great critique! Can't wait to hear what you have to say about mine! Thanks so much for taking the time to give us all some feedback, it must take you ages!

Thanks

[moonbass]

Thanks for the feedback Mike! Makes me want to go back and mix it again... except I can't face anymore country! But I know we all really appreciate the time you've taken out to listen to our work and comment.
Also thanks for a great display of giving feedback via Pendletons Rules (http://www.gp-training.net/training/educational_theory/feedback/pendleton.htm), which I think it would be good for everyone to consider when discussing each others mixes; sensitive souls that we bassists are!
Andy

[Dad3353]

[quote name='triviul' timestamp='1371071441' post='2109570']...[b]Mix A: Dad3353[/b]
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Hope that's of some help...[/quote]

Good evening, Triviul...

"Of some help"..? Rather..! In fact, it's the real objective and prize offered in these 'competitions'..! I shall certainly try to take on board the council and remarks made.
Equally (or perhaps more..?) instructive are the comments on the other tracks. Diligent listening, guided by the experience of others, helps us to 'educate' our ears and thought processes. The amateurs amongst us are unlikely to rival the sophistication and keen attention to detail that the 'pros' or 'semi-pros' come up with (although there's not always such a crevasse between 'em..!), and the tiny points caught by these analysis are sometimes akin to bright gems enlightening a mix.
Of some help..? Rather..!
Many thanks for taking such time and trouble. Respect.

[Skol303]

Wow! Fantastically useful feedback from Mike. Thanks again for offering up your words of wisdom as a prize this month. And for commenting on all of the mixes too - very generous.

We're all going to learn plenty from it, so cheers

A quick update on the next mix-off... Firstly that it will be starting on Monday next week (I'll be posting up a new thread for it that evening). Secondly that the genre is going to be reggae(ish!). I'm hoping to use some stems from a fellow Basschat member but failing that I'll use a track from Mike's online library.

So oil your faders and sharpen your, err, ears? We'll be kicking off again soon...

Edited June 13, 2013 by Skol303

[MiltyG565]

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1371104976' post='2109757']
Wow! Fantastically useful feedback from Mike. Thanks again for offering up your words of wisdom as a prize this month. And for commenting on all of the mixes too - very generous.

We're all going to learn plenty from it, so cheers

A quick update on the next mix-off... Firstly that it will be starting on Monday next week (I'll be posting up a new thread for it that evening). Secondly that the genre is going to be reggae(ish!). I'm hoping to use some stems from a fellow Basschat member but failing that I'll use a track from Mike's online library.

So oil your faders and sharpen your, err, ears? We'll be kicking off again soon...
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Hurray! I can't wait And I know what Reggae should sound like, so maybe i'll be better this time around

[ironside1966]

Thank you Mike for your critique.
It is a great help to have some one put your mix under a microscope and give you good solid advice.

[triviul]

As promised, here are some (again rather disorganised, I'm afraid!) thoughts on the rest of the mixes. Glad the previous comments have been of some use. Overall, I have to say that the quality of all these mixes was really high, especially given that the BassChat site seems ostensibly more aimed at musicians/performers than at mix engineers! It just goes to show that it's ears that make a mix, more than engineering techniques...

[b]Mix H: Ziphoblat[/b]

The kick seems overblown here. It sounds like you're boosting some extreme lows here for no useful result -- it just sounds bloated and uncontrolled. It's so low, in fact, that I wonder whether you're just not hearing what's going on down there on your monitoring system. Not many small systems give you much information about the sub-40Hz octave you're hitting there. If you find yourself boosting down there, I'd very much suggest using a spectrum analyser to keep any eye out for problems. I also wonder whether there's a bit too much rock 'slap' on the kick sound too. I suspect both issues might also be exacerbated by heavy compression on the kick channel, so I'd back off it a bit if that guess is well-founded. The snare feels a bit thin too -- did you match the polarities? Nice relative balance of the lead vocal versus the main violin/dobro hook. In fact, where most people underplayed the hook for me, you've if anything slightly overcooked it. It holds it place in mono beautifully, too, which is great. The bass is also well controlled, which is a rarity in mixes of this multitrack, but if it's the compression that's working that magic then I think you might want to use more EQ and less compresion to reduce the dynamic pumping side-effects.

[b]Mix I: Skol[/b]

Crumbs! This one hurts my ears a bit, I'm afraid, because you've hit the 4kHz region pretty hard -- I had to take out 3dB there straight away to be able to get further with it. If you line it up against anything else in this style I think you'll see what I mean. Anyway, otherwise the main thing that hits me is that you're also compressing hard on most things, so that it comes out sounding rather too much like Tom Waits! Not that I dislike Tom Waits, it's just that he's not really country... I also wonder whether you're trying a bit too hard to change these sounds with your EQ -- the arrangement already has a sound of its own, and for me a lot of the secret of mixing acoustic music is in letting the multitrack itself set the agenda. Try balancing it as simply as you can, without any plug-ins at all, and I reckon it'll tell you how it wants to sound. It really should take such aggressive processing work, I don't think. I like the warmer kick sound, although you'll need to sort out the bass resonance before the low-end balance really locks down. The snare could maybe be warmer to match it, though. At the moment, there's a bit of a mismatch for me.

[b]Mix J: VasDim[/b]

Your kick drum is triggering some kind of buss compression more than I'd expect for this style. Try reducing the gain reduction a couple of decibels and maybe also take a bit of LF out of that compressor's side-chain so that it doesn't choke the kick/bass combination as much. Other than that I like a lot of the decisions you made, here. There's a hint of the harshness that's crept in on some other mixes, though, so I'd maybe reconsider your EQ on the snare, acoustic guitars, and maybe even the lead vocal -- it seems like his nasality has been emphasised in a way that I'm not sure really flatters him, especially when he hits his higher registers. The bass resonance could do with a bit more work too. The vocal reverb feels a bit too obvious -- I wonder whether you're trying to get sustain by using a reverb that's too short, which is leading you to turn it up too much. Try turning the short reverb down until it invisbly blends, and then use something like narrowed plate reverb and/or tempo-sync'ed delay to give you the sustain.

[b]Mix K: MiltyG565[/b]

There's something a bit funny going on in this mix, I think. I'm not sure whether it's just super-heavy compression on everything, or you've been adding some kind of sitar/harpsichord-like layer in there. Whatever the reason, I think you might have got the wrong end of the stick with this style, because you shouldn't have to process it till your nose bleeds! It reminds me a bit of Private Psychedelic Reel... Anyway, my advice would be to got back to the drawing board here, take off all your plug-ins and concentrate more on getting the balance with faders, phase matching, and high-pass filtering. Once you've got something that makes sense like that you can work more subtly with compression and effects to enrich the basic raw materials, rather than trying to completely reinvent the sounds as you seem to have done here.

[b]Mix L: Xgsjx[/b]

First things first, your mono-compatibility is exceptional -- or, to put it another way, you seem to have bounced out your mix in mono! The main fiddle/dobro riff seems very low in the mono balance too, which implies to me that you've followed a similar approach as Ironside1966 here. The bass resonance is upsetting the low end balance as for most people, but I think your hat, cymbals, and toms also seem overloud to me -- the hat in particular is distracting me from the vocal, which isn't a good idea in any type of country music. The vocal should be king, really.

[triviul]

Oh, and one other thing -- if you fancy any more feedback on your mixes of multitracks in cambridge-mt download library, there are links by each multitrack listing which lead to the library's own discussion zone too, and that seems to be pretty busy these days.

[MiltyG565]

[quote name='triviul' timestamp='1371150147' post='2110628']
[b]Mix K: MiltyG565[/b]

There's something a bit funny going on in this mix, I think. I'm not sure whether it's just super-heavy compression on everything, or you've been adding some kind of sitar/harpsichord-like layer in there. Whatever the reason, I think you might have got the wrong end of the stick with this style, because you shouldn't have to process it till your nose bleeds! It reminds me a bit of Private Psychedelic Reel... Anyway, my advice would be to got back to the drawing board here, take off all your plug-ins and concentrate more on getting the balance with faders, phase matching, and high-pass filtering. Once you've got something that makes sense like that you can work more subtly with compression and effects to enrich the basic raw materials, rather than trying to completely reinvent the sounds as you seem to have done here.
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Thanks

Over-compression may be the issue. I certainly did out compression on a lot of things, but I generally just used presets, but then I also put a multi-band compressor on, which might just have made it too much, I don't know, I'm far from an expert I think what really happened, especially with the vocals and bass, was that my headphones are treble heavy/bass lacking, and I tried to make up for that. And the only other thing I have to listen on is my MacBook speakers, which are INCREDIBLY bass lacking, as you might know (and not good for listening to music anyway). Also, that harpsichord might just be the piano, it's very low in the mix, with lots of reverb and other effects on it to try and disguise the jerkiness and heavy handed way it's played.

I was my first go, and I tried my best. You'll have forgotten more than I know about mixing, so thanks for the feedback! Consider it noted, and highly appreciated!

Edited June 13, 2013 by MiltyG565

[Skol303]

[quote name='triviul' timestamp='1371150147' post='2110628']As promised, here are some (again rather disorganised, I'm afraid!) thoughts on the rest of the mixes. Glad the previous comments have been of some use. Overall, I have to say that the quality of all these mixes was really high, especially given that the BassChat site seems ostensibly more aimed at musicians/performers than at mix engineers![/quote]

Mike, again, a HUGE thanks on behalf of us all!

Your feedback is first class - well, I'd expect nothing less to be honest Very useful and insightful - I've learnt plenty comparing your mix notes with my own, and you have a great way of getting across your comments while remaining positive and encouraging.

It's been a great boost to a small yet passionate community like ours. And I'm sure we'll go from strength to strength with your advice ringing in our ears (....although the ringing may well be tinnitus from too much Uncle Dad. It sure is one catchy tune).

Thanks again and keep in touch. You're amongst friends here.

Paul

[51m0n]

Big thanks from me too Mike, interesting comments around the compression, next time I'll try more parallel compression on the guitars, so as to maintain the sense of the performance dynamics more.

Didnt really think I'd over sdone the buss comression, theres only a couple of dB being pulled at most on each of the compressors, one is really just pulling the Side up a tad rather than actually doing much compression. Again very interesting thoughts, thanks!

[Skol303]

A quick update: I've just been sent the stems for the next mixing challenge. I'm going to check them out tonight after work and assuming all's well, I'll set up a new thread for the next challenge later this evening.

It's going to be 'back to basics' this time... no big studio stems, just some good honest DIY recording and all the challenges that go with it

Watch this space... [size=2][not literally, I mean go do something useful in the meantime][/size]

[MiltyG565]

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1371466765' post='2114103']
A quick update: I've just been sent the stems for the next mixing challenge. I'm going to check them out tonight after work and assuming all's well, I'll set up a new thread for the next challenge later this evening.

It's going to be 'back to basics' this time... no big studio stems, just some good honest DIY recording and all the challenges that go with it

Watch this space... [size=2][not literally, I mean go do something useful in the meantime][/size]
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Cool! Hopefully I can land on the moon before you get the thread up...

That wasn't a joke...

[Skol303]

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1371474180' post='2114232']Cool! Hopefully I can land on the moon before you get the thread up...

That wasn't a joke...[/quote]

[i]"We come in peace for all mankind..."[/i]

Just beware the Clangers. They look cute with those long, pink noses but at the first whiff of fear you've had it!! Another good reason for vacuum-sealed spacesuits. And a low carb diet.

[51m0n]

I like the Clangers, the Soup Dragon was an evil git though!